NBA ROUND THREE EAST CONFERENCE FINAL PLAYOFF SERIES
GAME FIVE
MAY 26, 2010 IN ORLANDO, FLORIDA
ORLANDO MAGIC 113 BOSTON CELTICS 92
CELTICS LEAD THE SERIES 3-2
REAL PLAYER RATINGS FOR A SINGLE GAME WITH SPECIAL HIDDEN DEFENDING ADJUSTMENT
Each player's hidden defending rating from the regular season is used as the Hidden Defending Adjustment (HDA). Obviously, players in any individual game including this one were not exactly as good defenders as they were on the average during the regular season. But since there is no way to provide HDA for individual games and since it is better to have some reasonable HDA than none at all, we use the season HDA as a reasonable substitute.
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CELTICS REAL PLAYER RATINGS
Rasheed Wallace, C 1.535
Nate Robinson, PG 0.819
Kevin Garnett, PF 0.693
Paul Pierce, SF 0.655
Rajon Rondo, PG 0.628
Ray Allen, SG 0.606
Kendrick Perkins, C 0.528
Glen Davis, PF 0.119
Tony Allen, SG 0.102
Michael Finley, SG -0.183
MAGIC REAL PLAYER RATINGS
Jameer Nelson, PG 1.342
Jason Williams, PG 1.314
Dwight Howard, C 0.987
Matt Barnes, SF 0.863
Brandon Bass, PF 0.804
J.J. Redick, SG 0.748
Mickael Pietrus, SF 0.735
Rashard Lewis, PF 0.660
Vince Carter, SG 0.633
Marcin Gortat, C 0.448
COMBINED SORT REAL PLAYER RATINGS
Rasheed Wallace, Celtics C 1.535
Jameer Nelson, Magic PG 1.342
Jason Williams, Magic PG 1.314
Dwight Howard, Magic C 0.987
Matt Barnes, Magic SF 0.863
Nate Robinson, Celtics PG 0.819
Brandon Bass, Magic PF 0.804
J.J. Redick, Magic SG 0.748
Mickael Pietrus, Magic SF 0.735
Kevin Garnett, Celtics PF 0.693
Rashard Lewis, Magic PF 0.660
Paul Pierce, Celtics SF 0.655
Vince Carter, Magic SG 0.633
Rajon Rondo, Celtics PG 0.628
Ray Allen, Celtics SG 0.606
Kendrick Perkins, Celtics C 0.528
Marcin Gortat, Magic C 0.448
Glen Davis, Celtics PF 0.119
Tony Allen, Celtics SG 0.102
Michael Finley, Celtics SG -0.183
SCALE FOR REAL PLAYER RATINGS FOR A SINGLE GAME WHEN THE SINGLE GAME HIDDEN DEFENDING ADJUSTMENT IS INCLUDED
Major Historic Super Star / "Perfect Player" 1.200 and more
Historic Super Star 1.080 1.199
Super Star 0.960 1.079
A Star Player / A Well Above Normal Starter 0.860 0.959
Very Good Player / A Solid Starter 0.780 0.859
Major Role Player / Good Enough to Start 0.700 0.779
Good Role Player / Often a Good 6th Man 0.620 0.699
Satisfactory Role Player 0.540 0.619
Marginal Role Player 0.460 0.539
Poor Player 0.380 0.459
Very Poor Player 0.300 0.379
Extremely Poor Player and less 0.299
AVERAGE RATINGS BY POSITION
Not all positions are created equal. These are estimates for average ratings by position among all NBA players who play 300 minutes or more. There are very few small forwards and shooting guards who don't fit at other positions who are superstars. Most superstars are players who can play point guard, power forward, or center.
Point Guard .780
Shooting Guard .600
Small Forward .650
Power Forward .720
Center .750
All Positions / All Players .700
REAL PLAYER PRODUCTION
--Shows basketball production or quantity of players
--Hidden defending adjustments from the season are used; see above explanation (just before the Real Player Ratings) for details.
CELTICS REAL PLAYER PRODUCTION
Rasheed Wallace, C 27.63
Paul Pierce, SF 27.50
Ray Allen, SG 25.45
Rajon Rondo, PG 23.87
Kevin Garnett, PF 20.09
Kendrick Perkins, C 8.45
Nate Robinson, PG 7.37
Glen Davis, PF 2.37
Tony Allen, SG 1.12
Michael Finley, SG -2.06
MAGIC REAL PLAYER PRODUCTION
Jameer Nelson, PG 40.26
Dwight Howard, C 39.48
Jason Williams, PG 23.65
Matt Barnes, SF 21.58
Mickael Pietrus, SF 17.63
Vince Carter, SG 16.47
J.J. Redick, SG 16.46
Rashard Lewis, PF 15.85
Brandon Bass, PF 9.65
Marcin Gortat, C 8.95
COMBINED SORT BASIC REAL PLAYER PRODUCTION
Jameer Nelson, Magic PG 40.26
Dwight Howard, Magic C 39.48
Rasheed Wallace, Celtics C 27.63
Paul Pierce, Celtics SF 27.50
Ray Allen, Celtics SG 25.45
Rajon Rondo, Celtics PG 23.87
Jason Williams, Magic PG 23.65
Matt Barnes, Magic SF 21.58
Kevin Garnett, Celtics PF 20.09
Mickael Pietrus, Magic SF 17.63
Vince Carter, Magic SG 16.47
J.J. Redick, Magic SG 16.46
Rashard Lewis, Magic PF 15.85
Brandon Bass, Magic PF 9.65
Marcin Gortat, Magic C 8.95
Kendrick Perkins, Celtics C 8.45
Nate Robinson, Celtics PG 7.37
Glen Davis, Celtics PF 2.37
Tony Allen, Celtics SG 1.12
Michael Finley, Celtics SG -2.06
============== SUB RATINGS ==============
OFFENSIVE SUB RATINGS
--Shows the quality of players' offense
CELTICS OFFENSIVE SUB RATINGS
Rasheed Wallace, C 1.203
Nate Robinson, PG 0.537
Rajon Rondo, PG 0.422
Paul Pierce, SF 0.379
Kevin Garnett, PF 0.366
Ray Allen, SG 0.343
Glen Davis, PF 0.137
Kendrick Perkins, C 0.028
Tony Allen, SG -0.146
Michael Finley, SG -0.258
MAGIC OFFENSIVE SUB RATINGS
Jameer Nelson, PG 1.035
Jason Williams, PG 0.967
Brandon Bass, PF 0.612
J.J. Redick, SG 0.555
Rashard Lewis, PF 0.398
Vince Carter, SG 0.351
Marcin Gortat, C 0.351
Mickael Pietrus, SF 0.350
Matt Barnes, SF 0.259
Dwight Howard, C 0.177
COMBINED SORT OFFENSIVE SUB RATINGS
Rasheed Wallace, Celtics C 1.203
Jameer Nelson, Magic PG 1.035
Jason Williams, Magic PG 0.967
Brandon Bass, Magic PF 0.612
J.J. Redick, Magic SG 0.555
Nate Robinson, Celtics PG 0.537
Rajon Rondo, Celtics PG 0.422
Rashard Lewis, Magic PF 0.398
Paul Pierce, Celtics SF 0.379
Kevin Garnett, Celtics PF 0.366
Vince Carter, Magic SG 0.351
Marcin Gortat, Magic C 0.351
Mickael Pietrus, Magic SF 0.350
Ray Allen, Celtics SG 0.343
Matt Barnes, Magic SF 0.259
Dwight Howard, Magic C 0.177
Glen Davis, Celtics PF 0.137
Kendrick Perkins, Celtics C 0.028
Tony Allen, Celtics SG -0.146
Michael Finley, Celtics SG -0.258
THE AVERAGE OFFENSIVE SUB RATING
for all NBA players who play 300 minutes or more is .385
DEFENSIVE SUB RATINGS
--Shows the quality of players' defending
--Hidden defending adjustments from the season are used; see above explanation (just before the Real Player Ratings) for details.
CELTICS DEFENSIVE SUB RATINGS
Kendrick Perkins, C 0.500
Rasheed Wallace, C 0.332
Kevin Garnett, PF 0.327
Nate Robinson, PG 0.282
Paul Pierce, SF 0.276
Ray Allen, SG 0.263
Tony Allen, SG 0.248
Rajon Rondo, PG 0.206
Michael Finley, SG 0.076
Glen Davis, PF -0.019
MAGIC DEFENSIVE SUB RATINGS
Dwight Howard, C 0.810
Matt Barnes, SF 0.604
Mickael Pietrus, SF 0.385
Jason Williams, PG 0.347
Jameer Nelson, PG 0.307
Vince Carter, SG 0.282
Rashard Lewis, PF 0.263
J.J. Redick, SG 0.193
Brandon Bass, PF 0.192
Marcin Gortat, C 0.097
COMBINED SORT DEFENSIVE SUB RATINGS
Dwight Howard, Magic C 0.810
Matt Barnes, Magic SF 0.604
Kendrick Perkins, Celtics C 0.500
Mickael Pietrus, Magic SF 0.385
Jason Williams, Magic PG 0.347
Rasheed Wallace, Celtics C 0.332
Kevin Garnett, Celtics PF 0.327
Jameer Nelson, Magic PG 0.307
Nate Robinson, Celtics PG 0.282
Vince Carter, Magic SG 0.282
Paul Pierce, Celtics SF 0.276
Ray Allen, Celtics SG 0.263
Rashard Lewis, Magic PF 0.263
Tony Allen, Celtics SG 0.248
Rajon Rondo, Celtics PG 0.206
J.J. Redick, Magic SG 0.193
Brandon Bass, Magic PF 0.192
Marcin Gortat, Magic C 0.097
Michael Finley, Celtics SG 0.076
Glen Davis, Celtics PF -0.019
THE AVERAGE DEFENSIVE SUB RATING
for all NBA players who play 300 minutes or more is .315
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