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Monday, December 14, 2009

Real Player Ratings for the 2009 West Final, Game 5: Lakers 103 Nuggets 94

Editorial Notice: Quest for the Ring will be between now and the end of 2009 providing a complete Real Player Rating Series Report, like the one below, for each and every 2009 West Final game, for each and every 2009 East Final game, and for each game in the 2009 NBA Final Series. The Mavericks-Nuggets West Semifinal series is also being covered this way in full.

Following the posting of the Real Player Ratings Series Reports, we will post the Real Game Ratings Reports for all of these games. Following these Real Game Ratings, which were just created in the spring of 2009 and which have hardly appeared on Quest at all yet, we will pick some games to focus on for full scale text Reports. In the text reports, we will of course as appropriate make use of and link back to the completed performance measure reports.

Quest for the Ring, as of spring 2009, has realistically and strategically decided to concentrate its advanced performance measurement, reporting, and analysis capabilities on the games that matter the most each year in the NBA: the conference final games and the NBA Championship games.


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WEST FINAL 2009 GAME FIVE
MAY 27, 2009 IN LOS ANGELES, CA
LOS ANGELES LAKERS 103 DENVER NUGGETS 94
LOS ANGELES LAKERS LEAD THE SERIES 3-2

BASIC REAL PLAYER RATINGS
The adjustment for hidden defending is not valid for individual games and is not included.

NUGGETS BASIC REAL PLAYER RATINGS
Anthony Carter, PG 1.102
Carmelo Anthony, SF 0.631
Chauncey Billups, PG 0.537
Linas Kleiza, SF 0.509
Chris Andersen, C 0.475
Nene, C 0.473
Kenyon Martin, PF 0.415
J.R. Smith, SG 0.370
Dahntay Jones, SG 0.261

LAKERS BASIC REAL PLAYER RATINGS
Lamar Odom, PF 1.209
Pau Gasol, PF 0.936
Trevor Ariza, SF 0.780
Luke Walton, SF 0.646
Kobe Bryant, SG 0.581
Shannon Brown, PG 0.369
Jordan Farmar, PG 0.261
Derek Fisher, PG 0.145
Andrew Bynum, C 0.092


COMBINED SORT BASIC REAL PLAYER RATINGS
Lamar Odom, LAL PF 1.209
Anthony Carter, DEN PG 1.102
Pau Gasol, LAL PF 0.936
Trevor Ariza, LAL SF 0.780
Luke Walton, LAL SF 0.646
Carmelo Anthony, DEN SF 0.631
Kobe Bryant, LAL SG 0.581
Chauncey Billups, DEN PG 0.537
Linas Kleiza, DEN SF 0.509
Chris Andersen, DEN C 0.475
Nene, DEN C 0.473
Kenyon Martin, DEN PF 0.415
J.R. Smith, DEN SG 0.370
Shannon Brown, LAL PG 0.369
Jordan Farmar, LAL PG 0.261
Dahntay Jones, DEN SG 0.261
Derek Fisher, LAL PG 0.145
Andrew Bynum, LAL C 0.092


EVALUATION SCALE FOR BASIC REAL PLAYER RATINGS FOR A SINGLE GAME
Perfect for all Practical Purposes / Major Historic Super Star 1.100 and more
Historic Super Star 1.000 1.099
Super Star 0.900 0.999
A Star Player / A Well Above Normal Starter 0.800 0.899
Very Good Player: A Solid Starter 0.700 0.799
Major Role Player / Good Enough to Start 0.600 0.699
Good Role Player / Often a Good 6th Man 0.500 0.599
Satisfactory Role Player 0.425 0.499
Marginal Role Player 0.350 0.424
Poor Player 0.275 0.349
Very Poor Player 0.200 0.274
Extremely Poor Player .199 and less

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REAL PLAYER PRODUCTION
Basic Real Player Production
The adjustment for hidden defending is not valid for individual games and is not included.

NUGGETS BASIC REAL PLAYER PRODUCTION
Carmelo Anthony, SF 25.23
Chauncey Billups, PG 20.95
Kenyon Martin, PF 14.93
Nene, C 12.30
Anthony Carter, PG 12.12
Chris Andersen, C 11.40
J.R. Smith, SG 10.74
Linas Kleiza, SF 9.67
Dahntay Jones, SG 3.91

LAKERS BASIC REAL PLAYER PRODUCTION
Pau Gasol, PF 42.10
Lamar Odom, PF 38.70
Kobe Bryant, SG 26.13
Trevor Ariza, SF 24.97
Luke Walton, SF 9.69
Shannon Brown, PG 5.17
Derek Fisher, PG 3.91
Jordan Farmar, PG 1.83
Andrew Bynum, C 1.74


COMBINED SORT BASIC REAL PLAYER PRODUCTION
Pau Gasol, LAL PF 42.10
Lamar Odom, LAL PF 38.70
Kobe Bryant, LAL SG 26.13
Carmelo Anthony, DEN SF 25.23
Trevor Ariza, LAL SF 24.97
Chauncey Billups, DEN PG 20.95
Kenyon Martin, DEN PF 14.93
Nene, DEN C 12.30
Anthony Carter, DEN PG 12.12
Chris Andersen, DEN C 11.40
J.R. Smith, DEN SG 10.74
Luke Walton, LAL SF 9.69
Linas Kleiza, DEN SF 9.67
Shannon Brown, LAL PG 5.17
Dahntay Jones, DEN SG 3.91
Derek Fisher, LAL PG 3.91
Jordan Farmar, LAL PG 1.83
Andrew Bynum, LAL C 1.74

============== SUB RATINGS ==============
OFFENSIVE SUB RATINGS
All Tracked Offensive Plays

NUGGETS OFFENSIVE SUB RATINGS
Anthony Carter, PG 0.836
Chauncey Billups, PG 0.480
Carmelo Anthony, SF 0.460
Nene, C 0.325
Linas Kleiza, SF 0.322
Dahntay Jones, SG 0.241
Kenyon Martin, PF 0.202
J.R. Smith, SG 0.190
Chris Andersen, C 0.069

LAKERS OFFENSIVE SUB RATINGS
Lamar Odom, PF 0.638
Trevor Ariza, SF 0.516
Kobe Bryant, SG 0.480
Pau Gasol, PF 0.394
Shannon Brown, PG 0.369
Luke Walton, SF 0.331
Derek Fisher, PG 0.330
Jordan Farmar, PG 0.261
Andrew Bynum, C 0.233


COMBINED SORT OFFENSIVE SUB RATINGS
Anthony Carter, DEN PG 0.836
Lamar Odom, LAL PF 0.638
Trevor Ariza, LAL SF 0.516
Chauncey Billups, DEN PG 0.480
Kobe Bryant, LAL SG 0.480
Carmelo Anthony, DEN SF 0.460
Pau Gasol, LAL PF 0.394
Shannon Brown, LAL PG 0.369
Luke Walton, LAL SF 0.331
Derek Fisher, LAL PG 0.330
Nene, DEN C 0.325
Linas Kleiza, DEN SF 0.322
Jordan Farmar, LAL PG 0.261
Dahntay Jones, DEN SG 0.241
Andrew Bynum, LAL C 0.233
Kenyon Martin, DEN PF 0.202
J.R. Smith, DEN SG 0.190
Chris Andersen, DEN C 0.069

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DEFENSIVE SUB RATINGS
All Tracked Defensive Plays
Does not include hidden defending because procedure is invalid at game level.

NUGGETS DEFENSIVE SUB RATINGS
Chris Andersen, C 0.406
Anthony Carter, PG 0.265
Kenyon Martin, PF 0.213
Linas Kleiza, SF 0.187
J.R. Smith, SG 0.180
Carmelo Anthony, SF 0.171
Nene, C 0.148
Chauncey Billups, PG 0.057
Dahntay Jones, SG 0.020

LAKERS DEFENSIVE SUB RATINGS
Lamar Odom, PF 0.572
Pau Gasol, PF 0.542
Luke Walton, SF 0.315
Trevor Ariza, SF 0.264
Kobe Bryant, SG 0.101
Jordan Farmar, PG 0.000
Shannon Brown, PG 0.000
Andrew Bynum, C -0.142
Derek Fisher, PG -0.185


COMBINED SORT DEFENSIVE SUB RATINGS
Lamar Odom, LAL PF 0.572
Pau Gasol, LAL PF 0.542
Chris Andersen, DEN C 0.406
Luke Walton, LAL SF 0.315
Anthony Carter, DEN PG 0.265
Trevor Ariza, LAL SF 0.264
Kenyon Martin, DEN PF 0.213
Linas Kleiza, DEN SF 0.187
J.R. Smith, DEN SG 0.180
Carmelo Anthony, DEN SF 0.171
Nene, DEN C 0.148
Kobe Bryant, LAL SG 0.101
Chauncey Billups, DEN PG 0.057
Dahntay Jones, DEN SG 0.020
Jordan Farmar, LAL PG 0.000
Shannon Brown, LAL PG 0.000
Andrew Bynum, LAL C -0.142
Derek Fisher, LAL PG -0.185

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