We cap off “History Week” at Quest for the Ring (QFTR) with a Report on the Basketball Hall of Fame and just how difficult it is to get that ultimate recognition. Plus this one will remind readers that QFTR is obsessed with how many times that Allen Iverson has ended up with the short end of the stick in the media and also on the court despite the fact that he made many millions of dollars for many people as an historic, superstar guard and as a cultural icon. Specifically, QFTR is obsessed with whether and when Iverson will be admitted into the Hall of Fame.
QFTR is normally not all that interested in the Basketball Hall of Fame itself. For one thing, it is just one award of many that superstar and star basketball players can win. MVP is considered to be an equal award. QFTR is most interested, of course, in who wins Rings and why and who does not and why.
But there is one player who just retired who, if he were never admitted, would create a big problem, It would be fairly shocking and would in fact be a major scandal. Of course we are talking about Allen Iverson. There is a slight chance that Iverson will in fact be snubbed (never admitted). If so, it would not only be a scandal but it would prove that the committees that determine who is admitted are more focused on styles, personalities, and possibly even politics and less focused on basketball itself than we thought.
Due to this Iverson Hall of Fame question, which will be hanging out there uncertainly for a decade and probably more, we thought we would scope out the “Hall of Fame thing” carefully and in some detail with the assistance of the new Recognition Scores Report.
The new Recognition Scores just published two days ago here at QFTR can be used to some extent to correctly predict who will eventually be admitted into the Basketball Hall of Fame. As a very rough rule of thumb, players whose Recognition Scores are ten or more are extremely likely to eventually be admitted to the Hall of Fame. The odds for them approach 100%.
There has never been a player with a Score of ten or more who has not and clearly will never be admitted. If Iverson were not admitted, he would most likely be the first player ever with a very high Recognition Score who is not admitted.
I think the window in effect right now during which retired superstar players can be admitted runs from roughly five years after retirement to roughly 25 years after retirement, a 20 year period. If a former superstar becomes a manager or especially if he becomes a coach after he retires as a player, the 20 year clock may stop running, especially if the former player involved is not considered to be one who will inevitably be admitted sooner or later. In other words, it is possible that a superstar who would have been admitted had he never become a coach (had he immediately retired from basketball completely) is never admitted if for example he becomes an obscure coach and/or a coach who doesn’t do very well at coaching.
That means no coaching for you, Allen Iverson. But we didn’t have to worry about that, did we, given your views on practice, laugh out loud.
Personalities and styles are factors in how long it takes former superstar players to be admitted to the Hall of Fame and possibly, in certain cases, whether certain superstar players are ever admitted. This is so despite the fact that personalities and styles have little to do with what players did on the court.
The less smooth a superstar player's personality is, the longer that player has to wait to be admitted. The more a player is regarded as a “good citizen,” with a good personality, the less the former superstar player has to wait to be admitted.
Similarly, the more a player’s style “rubs many people the wrong way,” the longer the wait will be, and the greater the chance the former superstar player is snubbed by the Hall of Fame committees. The more a former superstar’s player’s style was a “crowd pleaser,” the quicker he will be admitted.
RETIRED SUPERSTARS IN THE LONG WAIT FOR THE HALL OF FAME TO LET THEM IN
Here is a list of retired players with Recognition scores greater than eight who have not yet been admitted to the Hall of Fame.
Gary Payton 17.35
Dennis Rodman 17.00
Dikembe Mutombo 15.95
Michael Cooper 13.20
Sidney Moncrief 11.85
Allen Iverson 10.90
Alonzo Mourning 9.55
Bruce Bowen 8.80
Mark Eaton 8.40
What about the long term prospects of these nine former players? Let’s start with the obvious: there is a 100% chance that Mutombo will be admitted.
Mutombo, Iverson, and Bowen are apparently newly retired as of the end of the 2009-10 season. It is far, far too early to be thinking about them soon going into the Hall of Fame. Since the committees that accept players into the Hall of Fame take their sweet time measured in years, newly retired players have to wait roughly five years at the very least before they are admitted even if it is inevitable that they will eventually be admitted. Michael Jordan, most likely the best basketball player of the modern era, was admitted just about as quickly as possible yet he was not admitted until six years after he retired as a NBA player.
I think there is roughly an 85% chance that Iverson will eventually be admitted. I used to think there was about a 95% chance that Iverson will be admitted, but that was before I found out very recently that it is even a little harder than I thought to get into the Hall of Fame. I still think that Iverson will eventually be admitted but it is most likely going to be many years before he is (ten, twenty, even thirty years). In the past even more so than today there were many players not admitted until they were in their 50’s or 60's or even older than that.
Gary Payton just retired about three years ago so it is still way too early for him to be admitted. Dennis Rodman retired about ten years ago so it is still early in the 5-25 years after retirement window for him to be admitted. Based on their extremely high recognition scores, you would have to say that both of these extremely recognized players are going to be admitted when the committees are good and ready to let them in.
Gary Payton is definitely eventually going to be admitted; although his personality and style are not the smoothest and most crowd pleasing ones ever, his sky high recognition score trumps that and ensures his admission.
But Dennis Rodmans' personality and style are roughly as "controversial" as Iversons' among the foolish people who think these things are important. Therefore we think that Rodman will have to wait an extra 5, 10 or even 20 years (on top of the standard 5 year wait) before he is admitted. Specifically, Rodman's window runs from roughly 2010 to 2025. Iversons' window runs 10 years later, from 2020 to 2035, mostly because he retired 10 years later.
But do we know absolutely for certain that Rodman will be admitted? No, we don't! If Rodman were snubbed, it would drastically increase the odds that Iverson would be snubbed by and never admitted to the Hall of Fame. In fact, if Rodman is never admitted, it will make it very likely that Iverson will never be admitted either. After all, Iverson's Recognition Score is substantially lower than Rodman's. Hopefully, it is going overboard to think that either Rodman or Iverson, because of their personalities and styles, will suffer anythink other than a long, long wait.
Michael Cooper and Sidney Moncrief are two players with Recognition Scores of 13.20 and 11.85 respectively but they have not yet been admitted even though it has been about twenty years since both of them played.
Michael Cooper retired 20 years ago as a NBA player but then he became a coach. For former superstars not considered to be automatic Hall of Famers, the window often (but not always) runs from when the superstar retires from basketball as a whole, so Cooper’s window has probably not even started yet. But incidentally, when someone retires from basketball entirely at an advanced age, the window is shorter and starts a year or two sooner than the usual five years after retirement. Because the committees want to get as many as possible into the Hall of Fame before they pass away rather than after. (At least there is one thing they speed things up for.) So Cooper can expect to be admitted between roughly three and twelve years after he completely retires from basketball.
Similarly, Sidney Moncrief retired as a NBA player almost twenty years ago but he is still working in basketball. In 2006, Moncrief returned to basketball as the head coach of the Fort Worth Flyers, a professional basketball team in the NBA D-League. He rejoined the NBA in October 2007 when he became the shooting coach for the Golden State Warriors. The odds are that when Moncrief completely retires from basketball, his window for being admitted to the Hall of Fame will start and that he will be admitted between about three and twelve years after that final retirement.
However, if either Cooper or Moncrief are never admitted, it would substantially increase the odds that Iverson will never be admitted, because they have similar Recognition Scores to Iverson (slightly higher, in fact). Therefore, Cooper and Moncrief have to be admitted for anyone worrying about Iverson to be able to have full confidence that Iverson will be admitted.
On the other hand, it is certainly possible that Iverson could be admitted even if one or both of Cooper and Moncrief are not admitted. After all, Cooper and Moncriefs' Recognition scores are only slightly higher than Iversons' and, also after all, the selection process is not entirely scientific or predictible.
Alonzo Mourning just retired two years ago so it is way too early for him to be admitted. I am thinking there is a 100% chance he will be admitted because his Recognition Score is just about 10 and I do believe his personality is considered a very good one by many people.
You know I cringe when I write that because personalities should not be significant factors but I know that they are factors, not only for the Hall of Fame but even for playing time on certain NBA teams. Yes, that would include you, Denver.
I think that defensive specialist Bruce Bowen is definitely going to be admitted. Such specialists appear to have a slightly easier time getting admitted to the Hall of Fame, which gets me just a little bit worried about Iverson again, because Iverson was definitely not a defensive specialist.
Finally, Mark Eaton retired about seventeen years ago and so it is starting to get to the later part of the window where he is most likely to be admitted. But there is still at least eight years left in Eaton’s window. In this case the committees are probably showing just how slow they can be in the case of a “less inevitable admission,” or in other words a more marginal admission.
JUST HOW LONG IS IT GOING TO TAKE FOR IVERSON TO BE ADMITTED TO THE HALL OF FAME?
I am thinking the committees will string Iverson along not so much because he is not considered to be inevitable but rather because of the personality and also the style stuff. The fact that Iverson was moved to the wrong position (from point guard to shooting guard) which backfired and made a style issue worse rather than better, will probably cost Iverson another year or two or three of waiting on top of an already long wait due to his strong and colorful personality. My bottom line is that I think it will be ten to twenty years before Iverson is admitted to the Basketball Hall of Fame. He will very probably be admitted sometime between 2020 and 2030.
However, if Iverson unexpectedly gets into legal trouble again then all bets are off. He had better stay out the hood. Invite the hood homies out the suburbs, Allen!
(Given these gargantuan time lines I had at least five years to get this Report out but I decided to make my deadline by a record margin, laugh out loud.)
CURRENT PLAYERS EXTREMELY LIKELY TO EVENTUALLY BE IN THE HALL OF FAME
This would be current players who have Recognition Scores of ten or more:
Tim Duncan 33.30
Kobe Bryant 26.10
Shaquille O'Neal 22.45
Kevin Garnett 21.25
Ben Wallace 18.45
LeBron James 15.25
Jason Kidd 14.10
Steve Nash 11.50
Dirk Nowitzki 11.00
Dwight Howard 10.90
Iverson’s score is 10.90 for comparison.
In general the odds that a former superstar basketball player will get into the Hall of Fame are in the vicinity of 100% when his Recognition Score is ten or more. But again, those with controversial personalities and styles need higher scores to absolutely guarantee admission. An absolute guarantee for a superstar widely claimed to have a "bad personality" and/or a "bad style" would require a Recognition Score of fifteen or even twenty. Unfortunately (and to me this is a scandal) Iversons' score does not absolutely guarantee he will be admitted.
Moreover, if a former superstar were to commit a crime and/or be involved in a major media scandal after he retires and before he is admitted, it could conceivably ruin his chances regardless of Recognition Score.
Those with scores between eight and ten are not almost automatic but are very, very likely to eventually be Hall of Famers. Right now, all of the players in this range are retired and we just discussed them above.
As a rough approximation, if you multiply the Recognition score by ten, you have a rough approximation of the odds that the player will eventually be in the Hall of Fame. For example, if a player has a score of 5, the odds are roughly 50% that he will eventually be admitted into the Hall of Fame.
Out of the 39 former superstar NBA players in the Hall of Fame, sixteen have Recognition Scores between three and five. However, it will be more difficult to get into the Hall of Fame with a score in this range in the future because there are more available awards now than there were back in the 1980’s and 1970’s. Also, the Hall of Fame committees seem intent on arbitrarily limiting the number of players who can be admitted each year despite the fact that there are more NBA teams and more superstars now than there were back when they determined this arbitrary limit.
No player has ever reached the Hall of Fame with a Recognition Score less than three and almost certainly none ever will.
Now that you know exactly how to do it, see the Report “Most Recognized High Impact Pro Basketball Players 1980-2010” to find out the Hall of Fame chances for various NBA superstars.
SHAME ON THE AMATEUR PERSONALITY, CULTURE, AND STYLE JUDGES
To close this out let’s face the truth: having a strong personality, having strong beliefs, being a member of a racial minority, being a member of a cultural minority, having an unusual style that for one obscure reason or another fails to please the crowd, and things such as these, are often held against you (often secretly of course) in American society. Resulting damage to both society and those being discriminated against varies radically from one case to another.
Shame on everyone who discriminates based on personality, race, culture, style, things of this nature. One of the main reasons I do sports instead of politics or something like that is because all sports are supposed to be free of these kinds of discriminations. But sports including basketball are not completely free of these biases. Evaluate basketball players on basketball and leave all the other extraneous stuff out of it or shame on you.
Saturday, August 28, 2010
Friday, August 27, 2010
Cities and Franchises That Won the Quest for the Ring 1950-2010
Last year I discovered that nobody cares about how many rings pro basketball players have. Well, not exactly, but I discovered that no one cares enough to keep track and post the numbers on the Internet. I guess people don’t really respect NBA Champions the way they think they do. Even on monster statistical sites there is no page to go to listing NBA player champions year by year, or the number of rings won by player. Sure, you find short and usually incomplete lists of players who have won three or more rings drifting around, but forget about a complete list unless you get it here.
Quest for the Ring (QFTR) has provided the basketball world with the missing information and then some. Here for the second year we have the complete and correct listings for winners of the QFTR in multiple formats. Each year, scheduled for August, the following Reports are in this historical series:
1. Players and Teams Who Won the Quest for the Ring 1980-1994
2. Players and Teams Who Won the Quest for the Ring 1995-2010
3. Alphabetic Logs of all Players Who Have Won the Quest for the Ring 1980-2010
4. Players Ranked by Number of Championships and Rings Won Since 1980
5. Players Ranked by Minutes Played in Championship Years Since 1980
6. Most Recognized High Impact Players 1980-2010
7. Cities and Franchises That Won the Quest for the Ring 1950-2010
In 2010 these will be posted one each day beginning with #1 on August 21 and finishing with #7 on August 27.
After these look for the new and improved Real Coach Ratings and the second annual Report on player salaries, team payrolls, and team cap space.
Championships are by themselves crucial history, but they are also very important for the present, because players who have already won rings are, all other things equal, more valuable than players who have never won a ring. You might as well add about .050 to each such player's Real Player Rating. So a .700 becomes a.750, an .870 becomes a .920, and so forth.
CITIES AND FRANCHISES THAT WON THE QUEST FOR THE RING 1950-2010
-By Year
Los Angeles, California 2010
Los Angeles, California 2009
Boston, Massachussetts 2008
San Antonio, Texas 2007
Miami, Florida 2006
San Antonio, Texas 2005
Detroit, Michigan 2004
San Antonio, Texas 2003
Los Angeles, California 2002
Los Angeles, California 2001
Los Angeles, California 2000
San Antonio, Texas 1999
Chicago, Illinois 1998
Chicago, Illinois 1997
Chicago, Illinois 1996
Houston, Texas 1995
Houston, Texas 1994
Chicago, Illinois 1993
Chicago, Illinois 1992
Chicago, Illinois 1991
Detroit, Michigan 1990
Detroit, Michigan 1989
Los Angeles, California 1988
Los Angeles, California 1987
Boston, Massachussetts 1986
Los Angeles, California 1985
Boston, Massachussetts 1984
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 1983
Los Angeles, California 1982
Boston, Massachussetts 1981
Los Angeles, California 1980
Seattle, Washington 1979
Washington, D.C. 1978
Portland, Oregon 1977
Boston, Massachussetts 1976
Oakland-San Francisco, California 1975
Boston, Massachussetts 1974
New York, New York 1973
Los Angeles, California 1972
Milwaukee, Wisconsin 1971
New York, New York 1970
Boston, Massachussetts 1969
Boston, Massachussetts 1968
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 1967
Boston, Massachussetts 1966
Boston, Massachussetts 1965
Boston, Massachussetts 1964
Boston, Massachussetts 1963
Boston, Massachussetts 1962
Boston, Massachussetts 1961
Boston, Massachussetts 1960
Boston, Massachussetts 1959
St. Louis, Missouri 1958
Boston, Massachussetts 1957
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 1956
Syracuse, New York 1955
Minneapolis, Minnesota 1954
Minneapolis, Minnesota 1953
Minneapolis, Minnesota 1952
Rochester, New York 1951
Minneapolis, Minnesota 1950
CITIES AND FRANCHISES THAT WON THE QUEST FOR THE RING 1950-2010
-By city alphabetically
Boston, Massachusetts 2008
Boston, Massachusetts 1986
Boston, Massachussetts 1984
Boston, Massachussetts 1981
Boston, Massachussetts 1976
Boston, Massachussetts 1974
Boston, Massachussetts 1969
Boston, Massachussetts 1968
Boston, Massachussetts 1966
Boston, Massachussetts 1965
Boston, Massachussetts 1964
Boston, Massachussetts 1963
Boston, Massachussetts 1962
Boston, Massachussetts 1961
Boston, Massachussetts 1960
Boston, Massachussetts 1959
Boston, Massachussetts 1957
Chicago, Illinois 1998
Chicago, Illinois 1997
Chicago, Illinois 1996
Chicago, Illinois 1993
Chicago, Illinois 1992
Chicago, Illinois 1991
Detroit, Michigan 2004
Detroit, Michigan 1990
Detroit, Michigan 1989
Houston, Texas 1995
Houston, Texas 1994
Los Angeles, California 2010
Los Angeles, California 2009
Los Angeles, California 2002
Los Angeles, California 2001
Los Angeles, California 2000
Los Angeles, California 1988
Los Angeles, California 1987
Los Angeles, California 1985
Los Angeles, California 1982
Los Angeles, California 1980
Los Angeles, California 1972
Miami, Florida 2006
Milwaukee, Wisconsin 1971
Minneapolis, Minnesota 1954
Minneapolis, Minnesota 1953
Minneapolis, Minnesota 1952
Minneapolis, Minnesota 1950
New York, New York 1973
New York, New York 1970
Oakland-San Francisco, California 1975
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 1983
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 1967
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 1956
Portland, Oregon 1977
Rochester, New York 1951
San Antonio, Texas 2007
San Antonio, Texas 2005
San Antonio, Texas 2003
San Antonio, Texas 1999
Seattle, Washington 1979
St. Louis, Missouri 1958
Syracuse, New York 1955
Washington, D.C. 1978
CITIES AND FRANCHISES THAT WON THE QUEST FOR THE RING 1950-2010
-Cities ranked by number of Rings won
Boston, Massachusetts 17
Los Angeles, California 11
Chicago, Illinois 6
Minneapolis, Minnesota 4
San Antonio, Texas 4
Detroit, Michigan 3
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 3
Houston, Texas 2
New York, New York 2
Miami, Florida 1
Milwaukee, Wisconsin 1
Oakland-San Francisco, California 1
Portland, Oregon 1
Rochester, New York 1
Seattle, Washington 1
St. Louis, Missouri 1
Syracuse, New York 1
Washington, D.C. 1
CURRENT NBA PRO BASKETBALL CITIES THAT HAVE NEVER WON THE QUEST FOR THE RING
-And they may never win unless they start reading QFTR!
Atlanta, Georgia 0
Charlotte, North Carolina 0
Cleveland, Ohio 0
Dallas, Texas 0
Denver, Colorado 0
Indianapolis, Indiana 0
Memphis, Tennessee 0
New Orleans, Louisiana 0
Newark, New Jersey 0
Oklahoma City, Oklahoma 0
Orlando, Florida 0
Phoenix, Arizona 0
Sacramento, California 0
Salt Lake City, Utah 0
Toronto, Canada 0
Quest for the Ring (QFTR) has provided the basketball world with the missing information and then some. Here for the second year we have the complete and correct listings for winners of the QFTR in multiple formats. Each year, scheduled for August, the following Reports are in this historical series:
1. Players and Teams Who Won the Quest for the Ring 1980-1994
2. Players and Teams Who Won the Quest for the Ring 1995-2010
3. Alphabetic Logs of all Players Who Have Won the Quest for the Ring 1980-2010
4. Players Ranked by Number of Championships and Rings Won Since 1980
5. Players Ranked by Minutes Played in Championship Years Since 1980
6. Most Recognized High Impact Players 1980-2010
7. Cities and Franchises That Won the Quest for the Ring 1950-2010
In 2010 these will be posted one each day beginning with #1 on August 21 and finishing with #7 on August 27.
After these look for the new and improved Real Coach Ratings and the second annual Report on player salaries, team payrolls, and team cap space.
Championships are by themselves crucial history, but they are also very important for the present, because players who have already won rings are, all other things equal, more valuable than players who have never won a ring. You might as well add about .050 to each such player's Real Player Rating. So a .700 becomes a.750, an .870 becomes a .920, and so forth.
CITIES AND FRANCHISES THAT WON THE QUEST FOR THE RING 1950-2010
-By Year
Los Angeles, California 2010
Los Angeles, California 2009
Boston, Massachussetts 2008
San Antonio, Texas 2007
Miami, Florida 2006
San Antonio, Texas 2005
Detroit, Michigan 2004
San Antonio, Texas 2003
Los Angeles, California 2002
Los Angeles, California 2001
Los Angeles, California 2000
San Antonio, Texas 1999
Chicago, Illinois 1998
Chicago, Illinois 1997
Chicago, Illinois 1996
Houston, Texas 1995
Houston, Texas 1994
Chicago, Illinois 1993
Chicago, Illinois 1992
Chicago, Illinois 1991
Detroit, Michigan 1990
Detroit, Michigan 1989
Los Angeles, California 1988
Los Angeles, California 1987
Boston, Massachussetts 1986
Los Angeles, California 1985
Boston, Massachussetts 1984
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 1983
Los Angeles, California 1982
Boston, Massachussetts 1981
Los Angeles, California 1980
Seattle, Washington 1979
Washington, D.C. 1978
Portland, Oregon 1977
Boston, Massachussetts 1976
Oakland-San Francisco, California 1975
Boston, Massachussetts 1974
New York, New York 1973
Los Angeles, California 1972
Milwaukee, Wisconsin 1971
New York, New York 1970
Boston, Massachussetts 1969
Boston, Massachussetts 1968
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 1967
Boston, Massachussetts 1966
Boston, Massachussetts 1965
Boston, Massachussetts 1964
Boston, Massachussetts 1963
Boston, Massachussetts 1962
Boston, Massachussetts 1961
Boston, Massachussetts 1960
Boston, Massachussetts 1959
St. Louis, Missouri 1958
Boston, Massachussetts 1957
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 1956
Syracuse, New York 1955
Minneapolis, Minnesota 1954
Minneapolis, Minnesota 1953
Minneapolis, Minnesota 1952
Rochester, New York 1951
Minneapolis, Minnesota 1950
CITIES AND FRANCHISES THAT WON THE QUEST FOR THE RING 1950-2010
-By city alphabetically
Boston, Massachusetts 2008
Boston, Massachusetts 1986
Boston, Massachussetts 1984
Boston, Massachussetts 1981
Boston, Massachussetts 1976
Boston, Massachussetts 1974
Boston, Massachussetts 1969
Boston, Massachussetts 1968
Boston, Massachussetts 1966
Boston, Massachussetts 1965
Boston, Massachussetts 1964
Boston, Massachussetts 1963
Boston, Massachussetts 1962
Boston, Massachussetts 1961
Boston, Massachussetts 1960
Boston, Massachussetts 1959
Boston, Massachussetts 1957
Chicago, Illinois 1998
Chicago, Illinois 1997
Chicago, Illinois 1996
Chicago, Illinois 1993
Chicago, Illinois 1992
Chicago, Illinois 1991
Detroit, Michigan 2004
Detroit, Michigan 1990
Detroit, Michigan 1989
Houston, Texas 1995
Houston, Texas 1994
Los Angeles, California 2010
Los Angeles, California 2009
Los Angeles, California 2002
Los Angeles, California 2001
Los Angeles, California 2000
Los Angeles, California 1988
Los Angeles, California 1987
Los Angeles, California 1985
Los Angeles, California 1982
Los Angeles, California 1980
Los Angeles, California 1972
Miami, Florida 2006
Milwaukee, Wisconsin 1971
Minneapolis, Minnesota 1954
Minneapolis, Minnesota 1953
Minneapolis, Minnesota 1952
Minneapolis, Minnesota 1950
New York, New York 1973
New York, New York 1970
Oakland-San Francisco, California 1975
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 1983
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 1967
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 1956
Portland, Oregon 1977
Rochester, New York 1951
San Antonio, Texas 2007
San Antonio, Texas 2005
San Antonio, Texas 2003
San Antonio, Texas 1999
Seattle, Washington 1979
St. Louis, Missouri 1958
Syracuse, New York 1955
Washington, D.C. 1978
CITIES AND FRANCHISES THAT WON THE QUEST FOR THE RING 1950-2010
-Cities ranked by number of Rings won
Boston, Massachusetts 17
Los Angeles, California 11
Chicago, Illinois 6
Minneapolis, Minnesota 4
San Antonio, Texas 4
Detroit, Michigan 3
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 3
Houston, Texas 2
New York, New York 2
Miami, Florida 1
Milwaukee, Wisconsin 1
Oakland-San Francisco, California 1
Portland, Oregon 1
Rochester, New York 1
Seattle, Washington 1
St. Louis, Missouri 1
Syracuse, New York 1
Washington, D.C. 1
CURRENT NBA PRO BASKETBALL CITIES THAT HAVE NEVER WON THE QUEST FOR THE RING
-And they may never win unless they start reading QFTR!
Atlanta, Georgia 0
Charlotte, North Carolina 0
Cleveland, Ohio 0
Dallas, Texas 0
Denver, Colorado 0
Indianapolis, Indiana 0
Memphis, Tennessee 0
New Orleans, Louisiana 0
Newark, New Jersey 0
Oklahoma City, Oklahoma 0
Orlando, Florida 0
Phoenix, Arizona 0
Sacramento, California 0
Salt Lake City, Utah 0
Toronto, Canada 0
Thursday, August 26, 2010
Most Recognized High Impact Pro Basketball Players 1980-2010
Last year I discovered that nobody cares about how many rings pro basketball players have. Well, not exactly, but I discovered that no one cares enough to keep track and post the numbers on the Internet. I guess people don’t really respect NBA Champions the way they think they do. Even on monster statistical sites there is no page to go to listing NBA player champions year by year, or the number of rings won by player. Sure, you find short and usually incomplete lists of players who have won three or more rings drifting around, but forget about a complete list unless you get it here.
Quest for the Ring (QFTR) has provided the basketball world with the missing information and then some. Here for the second year we have the complete and correct listings for winners of the QFTR in multiple formats. Each year, scheduled for August, the following Reports are in this historical series:
1. Players and Teams Who Won the Quest for the Ring 1980-1994
2. Players and Teams Who Won the Quest for the Ring 1995-2010
3. Alphabetic Logs of all Players Who Have Won the Quest for the Ring 1980-2010
4. Players Ranked by Number of Championships and Rings Won Since 1980
5. Players Ranked by Minutes Played in Championship Years Since 1980
6. Most Recognized High Impact Players 1980-2010
7. Cities and Franchises That Won the Quest for the Ring 1950-2010
In 2010 these will be posted one each day beginning with #1 on August 21 and finishing with #7 on August 27.
After these look for the new and improved Real Coach Ratings and the second annual Report on player salaries, team payrolls, and team cap space.
Championships are by themselves crucial history, but they are also very important for the present, because players who have already won rings are, all other things equal, more valuable than players who have never won a ring. You might as well add about .050 to each such player's Real Player Rating. So a .700 becomes a.750, an .870 becomes a .920, and so forth.
MOST RECOGNIZED HIGH IMPACT PRO BASKETBALL PLAYERS 1980-2010
This brand new Report shows you every player who won a significant award and, using a carefully calibrated scale, ranks all the players who won one or more awards according to the relative value of all the awards and recognitions they won.
Scientifically speaking and in terms of who is going to win Championships and Rings, Real Player Ratings are more important than all of these recognitions combined. But this Report is what you need to keep up with the day to day and year to year media and popularity world that determines who the most famous pro basketball players are.
Basically, this Report combines all the media recognitions given to basketball players and computes an overall combined score that we call the "Recognition Score".
Fortunately, for the superstar basketball players there is a fairly good correlation between Real Player Ratings and Recognition Scores. Among mere stars the correlation is weaker. There are some players who were (or are) actually star pro basketball players, as could be shown by Real Player Ratings, but who have been very seldom and possibly never recognized with any of the awards.
The recognitions (awards) are defined and factored as follows:
RECOGNITION SCORE FACTORS
Hall of Fame 3.00
Most Valuable Player 3.00
Defensive Player of the Year 2.40
Rookie of the Year 1.75
Championship Rings 1.00
All NBA First Team 1.00
All NBA Defensive First Team 0.80
All NBA Second Team 0.75
All NBA Defensive Second Team 0.60
All NBA Rookie Team 0.40
The recognition weights are determined according to the following two considerations:
(1) How many have won the award or recognition. The fewer there are, the more difficult it is to win it, and the higher the factor. This is the primary item that determines how much the factor will be.
And (2) How valid is the award or recognition scientifically.
For example, the All NBA Teams are not a highly valid or scientific recognition. They are determined by votes of individuals who in most cases use their beliefs rather than any valid rating system such as Real Player Rating or the more well known but more complex Hollinger Player Efficiency Rating System at ESPN.
Specifically, the voting is conducted by a panel of sportswriters and broadcasters throughout the United States and Canada. Just like coaches sometimes do, sportswriters can and will sometimes make the mistake of bringing in player styles and personalities to their voting decisions, which will often lead to distortion of the ratings. This is because it is known beyond a shadow of a doubt that “how good” a player really is is a result of many things, of which style and personality are just two relatively minor ones. But what some misguided coaches and others do is get fixated (or hung up) on the styles and personalities themselves, and so they end up rating styles and personalities rather than basketball capabilities of players.
Therefore, the All NBA Teams recognitions are rated somewhat lower than they would be if it was a more scientific thing. If the All NBA Teams were chosen validly, the weights given to them would be as much as double what they are.
If in other words for example the First All NBA Team really was for sure the best five players in the NBA, you could justify using a factor for that twice as much as the factor for winning a Championship. After all, on a Championship starting team, you don't have the five best players in the NBA, but rather you have five of the better players, with perhaps one or two players on the Championship team among the top five players in the NBA. So if it were valid the All NBA First Team could be factored as twice as valuable. On the other hand, winning a Championship is very hard often difficult work, so we would never rate the All NBA First Team as worth more than twice what a Championship is worth even if the First Team was validly selected. In other words, we would never downplay how much hard work it is to win a Championship relative to how good a player is in the abstract.
But again, since the selection is not scientifically valid, we factor the All NBA First Team recognition as just the same as for winning a Championship (both are given a factor of 1.0).
EXAMPLE
How are Recognition Scores calculated? For example, if a player was on the All NBA Defensive First Team once, was Rookie of the Year once, and was Most Valuable Player twice, his recognition score would be (.80 X 1) + (1.75 X 1) + (3 X 2) = 8.55.
Note that for Championship Rings, only players who played 1,200 minutes or more in the year when their team won the Championship are included. We debated whether to use the 300 minutes threshold or the 1,200 minutes one, but decided to go with the 1,200 minutes one since players who played between 300 and 1,199 minutes played only a marginal role. However, this was a tough, close call and we might possibly change this for next year.
An interesting question is: what percentage of NBA players get recognized at least once? The answer is that roughly 15% (between 14% and 16%) get recognized at least one time during their careers. Roughly 85% never get recognized in any of the ten ways shown above.
Now its finally time for the breakdown of the most recognized pro basketball players from the last 31 years. There are two slightly different listings. The first one shows players ranked by their Recognition Scores.
The second listing down below will show players who have been recognized at least one time alphabetically (by first name).
========== MOST RECOGNIZED HIGH IMPACT PRO BASKETBALL PLAYERS 1980-2010 ==========
--Ranked by Recognition Scores
--Ten recognitions are considered; for details see the explanation above
--Championship rings are counted only for players who played 1,200 minutes or more during the season their teams won
--The format for each entry is Rank / Player / Recognition Score
1 Michael Jordan 46.50
2 Tim Duncan 33.30
3 Hakeem Olajuwon 29.35
4 Larry Bird 27.70
5 Magic Johnson 26.15
6 Kobe Bryant 26.10
7 David Robinson 25.65
8 Karl Malone 25.40
9 Shaquille O'Neal 22.45
10 Scottie Pippen 22.10
11 Kevin Garnett 21.25
12 Ben Wallace 18.45
13 Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 17.70
14 Gary Payton 17.35
15 Dennis Rodman 17.00
16 Moses Malone 16.05
17 Dikembe Mutombo 15.95
18 Charles Barkley 15.65
19 LeBron James 15.25
20 Jason Kidd 14.10
21 John Stockton 14.00
22 Michael Cooper 13.20
23 Dennis Johnson 12.55
24 Patrick Ewing 12.45
25 Sidney Moncrief 11.85
26 Kevin McHale 11.60
27 Steve Nash 11.50
28 Dirk Nowitzki 11.00
29 Julius Erving 11.00
30 Joe Dumars 10.95
31 Allen Iverson 10.90
32 Dwight Howard 10.90
33 Alonzo Mourning 9.55
34 Isiah Thomas 8.90
35 Bruce Bowen 8.80
36 Dominique Wilkins 8.40
37 Mark Eaton 8.40
38 Clyde Drexler 7.50
39 James Worthy 7.40
40 Robert Parish 7.25
41 Dwyane Wade 7.20
42 Alvin Robertson 7.15
43 George Gervin 6.75
44 Ron Artest 6.70
45 Horace Grant 6.40
46 Grant Hill 6.15
47 Robert Horry 6.00
48 Chris Webber 5.90
49 Buck Williams 5.70
50 Marcus Camby 5.60
51 Bobby Jones 5.60
52 Amare Stoudemire 5.40
53 Mitch Richmond 5.40
54 Chris Paul 5.30
55 Alex English 5.25
56 Tracy McGrady 5.25
57 Pau Gasol 5.15
58 Maurice Cheeks 4.80
59 Adrian Dantley 4.75
60 Ron Harper 4.40
61 Dan Roundfield 4.35
62 Tim Hardaway 4.15
63 Bill Walton 4.00
64 Bob McAdoo 4.00
65 Derek Fisher 4.00
66 Mookie Blaylock 4.00
67 Chauncey Billups 3.95
68 Tony Parker 3.90
69 Nate Archibald 3.75
70 Paul Pierce 3.65
71 A. C. Green 3.60
72 Dave Cowens 3.60
73 Drazen Petrovic 3.50
74 Kevin Johnson 3.50
75 Manu Ginobili 3.50
76 Bill Cartwright 3.40
77 Byron Scott 3.40
78 Tayshaun Prince 3.40
79 Terry Cummings 3.40
80 Vince Carter 3.40
81 Yao Ming 3.40
82 Derrick Coleman 3.15
83 Kevin Durant 3.15
84 B.J. Armstrong 3.00
85 Bob Lanier 3.00
86 Brandon Roy 3.00
87 Calvin J. Murphy 3.00
88 Chris Mullin 3.00
89 Dan Issel 3.00
90 David Thompson 3.00
91 Earl Monroe 3.00
92 Elvin E. Hayes 3.00
93 Luc Longley 3.00
94 Mario Elie 3.00
95 Pete Maravich 3.00
96 Rick Barry 3.00
97 Rick Fox 3.00
98 Toni Kukoc 3.00
99 Walt Frazier 3.00
100 Wes Unseld 3.00
101 Anfernee Hardaway 2.90
102 Elton Brand 2.90
103 Larry Johnson 2.90
104 Ralph Sampson 2.90
105 Quinn Buckner 2.80
106 Eddie Jones 2.70
107 Carmelo Anthony 2.65
108 Doug Christie 2.60
109 Mark Price 2.50
110 Andrei Kirilenko 2.40
111 Kenny Smith 2.40
112 Lamar Odom 2.40
113 Rajon Rondo 2.40
114 Bernard King 2.25
115 Glen Rice 2.25
116 Ray Allen 2.25
117 Shawn Kemp 2.25
118 Paul Pressey 2.20
119 Chuck Person 2.15
120 Damon Stoudamire 2.15
121 Darrell Griffith 2.15
122 Derrick Rose 2.15
123 Emeka Okafor 2.15
124 Mark Jackson 2.15
125 Mike Miller 2.15
126 Steve Francis 2.15
127 Tyreke Evans 2.15
128 Andrew Bynum 2.00
129 Bill Laimbeer 2.00
130 Brent Barry 2.00
131 Brian Shaw 2.00
132 Carl Herrera 2.00
133 Cedric Maxwell 2.00
134 Gerald Henderson 2.00
135 Jamaal Wilkes 2.00
136 James Edwards 2.00
137 James Posey 2.00
138 John Paxson 2.00
139 John Salley 2.00
140 Kurt Rambis 2.00
141 Larry Nance 2.00
142 Norm Nixon 2.00
143 Steve Kerr 2.00
144 Vernon Maxwell 2.00
145 Vinnie Johnson 2.00
146 Deron Williams 1.90
147 Charles Oakley 1.80
148 P.J. Brown 1.80
149 T. R. Dunn 1.80
150 Gilbert Arenas 1.75
151 Gus Williams 1.75
152 Jermaine O'Neal 1.75
153 Sam Cassell 1.75
154 Vin Baker 1.65
155 Caldwell Jones 1.60
156 Derrick McKey 1.60
157 Latrell Sprewell 1.60
158 Micheal Ray Richardson 1.60
159 Rick Mahorn 1.60
160 Scott Wedman 1.60
161 Shane Battier 1.60
162 Marques Johnson 1.50
163 Reggie Miller 1.50
164 Tom Chambers 1.50
165 Antoine Walker 1.40
166 Isaiah Rider 1.40
167 Jason Williams 1.40
168 Michael Finley 1.40
169 Raja Bell 1.40
170 Rodney McCray 1.40
171 Stephon Marbury 1.40
172 Wayne Rollins 1.40
173 Lafayette Lever 1.35
174 Clifford Robinson 1.20
175 Dan Majerle 1.20
176 Derek Harper 1.20
177 Kermit Washington 1.20
178 Nate McMillan 1.20
179 Theo Ratliff 1.20
180 Chris Bosh 1.15
181 Anthony Mason 1.10
182 Andrew Toney 1.00
183 Avery Johnson 1.00
184 Chris Ford 1.00
185 Clint Richardson 1.00
186 Corliss Williamson 1.00
187 Danny Ainge 1.00
188 Devean George 1.00
189 Devin Brown 1.00
190 Eddie House 1.00
191 Fabricio Oberto 1.00
192 Francisco Elson 1.00
193 Franklin Edwards 1.00
194 Jason Caffey 1.00
195 Jerry Sichting 1.00
196 Jim Chones 1.00
197 Jordan Farmar 1.00
198 Kendrick Perkins 1.00
199 Kirk Hinrich 1.00
200 Larry Spriggs 1.00
201 Lindsey Hunter 1.00
202 Malik Rose 1.00
203 Marc Iavaroni 1.00
204 Mark Aguirre 1.00
205 Mehmet Okur 1.00
206 Mychal Thompson 1.00
207 Otis Thorpe 1.00
208 Paul Westphal 1.00
209 Pete Chilcutt 1.00
210 Rasho Nesterovic 1.00
211 Richard Hamilton 1.00
212 Rick Robey 1.00
213 Samaki Walker 1.00
214 Sasha Vujacic 1.00
215 Scott Brooks 1.00
216 Scott Williams 1.00
217 Sean Elliott 1.00
218 Shannon Brown 1.00
219 Shawn Marion 1.00
220 Spencer Haywood 1.00
221 Stacey King 1.00
222 Stephen Jackson 1.00
223 Tiny Archibald 1.00
224 Tony Allen 1.00
225 Trevor Ariza 1.00
226 Udonis Haslem 1.00
227 Andrew Bogut 0.90
228 Antonio McDyess 0.90
229 Brad Daugherty 0.90
230 Jamal Mashburn 0.90
231 Don Buse 0.80
232 Gerald Wallace 0.80
233 Larry Hughes 0.80
234 Otis Birdsong 0.75
235 Peja Stojakovic 0.75
236 Rod Strickland 0.75
237 Anderson Varejao 0.60
238 Bill Hanzlik 0.60
239 Bobby Phills 0.60
240 Danny Vranes 0.60
241 Dudley Bradley 0.60
242 Eddie Johnson 0.60
243 Eric Snow 0.60
244 George Johnson 0.60
245 Jack Sikma 0.60
246 John Starks 0.60
247 Josh Smith 0.60
248 Lonnie Shelton 0.60
249 Manute Bol 0.60
250 Micheal Williams 0.60
251 Thabo Sefolosha 0.60
252 Baron Davis 0.50
253 Carlos Boozer 0.50
254 Dale Ellis 0.50
255 Detlef Schrempf 0.50
256 Joe Johnson 0.50
257 Juwan Howard 0.50
258 Kevin Willis 0.50
259 Michael Redd 0.50
260 Al Horford 0.40
261 Al Thornton 0.40
262 Andre Iguodala 0.40
263 Andre Miller 0.40
264 Andrea Bargnani 0.40
265 Armon Gilliam 0.40
266 Arvydas Sabonis 0.40
267 Ben Gordon 0.40
268 Billy Owens 0.40
269 Brandon Jennings 0.40
270 Brevin Knight 0.40
271 Brian Grant 0.40
272 Brook Lopez 0.40
273 Calvin Natt 0.40
274 Caron Butler 0.40
275 Channing Frye 0.40
276 Charles Smith 0.40
277 Charlie Villanueva 0.40
278 Christian Laettner 0.40
279 Clark Kellogg 0.40
280 Darius Miles 0.40
281 Darrell Walker 0.40
282 Darren Collison 0.40
283 David Greenwood 0.40
284 Dee Brown 0.40
285 Dennis Scott 0.40
286 Drew Gooden 0.40
287 Glenn Robinson 0.40
288 Greg Anderson 0.40
289 Hersey Hawkins 0.40
290 Jason Richardson 0.40
291 Jay Vincent 0.40
292 Jeff Green 0.40
293 Jeff Malone 0.40
294 Jeff Ruland 0.40
295 Jerry Stackhouse 0.40
296 Joe Barry Carroll 0.40
297 Joe Smith 0.40
298 John Williams 0.40
299 Jorge Garbajosa 0.40
300 Keith Van Horn 0.40
301 Kelly Tripucka 0.40
302 Kelvin Ransey 0.40
303 Kendall Gill 0.40
304 Kenyon Martin 0.40
305 LaMarcus Aldridge 0.40
306 LaPhonso Ellis 0.40
307 Larry Smith 0.40
308 Lionel Simmons 0.40
309 Luis Scola 0.40
310 Luol Deng 0.40
311 Marc Jackson 0.40
312 Matt Harpring 0.40
313 Michael Beasley 0.40
314 Mike Bibby 0.40
315 Morris Peterson 0.40
316 Nene Hilario 0.40
317 O.J. Mayo 0.40
318 Pooh Richardson 0.40
319 Quintin Dailey 0.40
320 Randy Foye 0.40
321 Rik Smits 0.40
322 Ron Mercer 0.40
323 Roy Tarpley 0.40
324 Rudy Gay 0.40
325 Russell Westbrook 0.40
326 Sam Bowie 0.40
327 Sam Perkins 0.40
328 Shareef Abdur-Rahim 0.40
329 Sherman Douglas 0.40
330 Stacey Augmon 0.40
331 Stephen Curry 0.40
332 Steve Smith 0.40
333 Steve Stipanovich 0.40
334 Taj Gibson 0.40
335 Thurl Bailey 0.40
336 Tom Gugliotta 0.40
337 Vlade Divac 0.40
338 Wally Szczerbiak 0.40
339 Willie Anderson 0.40
340 Xavier McDaniel 0.40
341 Zydrunas Ilgauskas 0.40
========== MOST RECOGNIZED HIGH IMPACT PRO BASKETBALL PLAYERS 1980-2010 ==========
--Shown Alphabetically
--Ten recognitions are considered; for details see the explanation above
--Championship rings are counted only for players who played 1,200 minutes or more during the season their teams won
--The format for each line is Player / Recognition Score
A. C. Green 3.60
Adrian Dantley 4.75
Al Horford 0.40
Al Thornton 0.40
Alex English 5.25
Allen Iverson 10.90
Alonzo Mourning 9.55
Alvin Robertson 7.15
Amare Stoudemire 5.40
Anderson Varejao 0.60
Andre Iguodala 0.40
Andre Miller 0.40
Andrea Bargnani 0.40
Andrei Kirilenko 2.40
Andrew Bogut 0.90
Andrew Bynum 2.00
Andrew Toney 1.00
Anfernee Hardaway 2.90
Anthony Mason 1.10
Antoine Walker 1.40
Antonio McDyess 0.90
Armon Gilliam 0.40
Arvydas Sabonis 0.40
Avery Johnson 1.00
B.J. Armstrong 3.00
Baron Davis 0.50
Ben Gordon 0.40
Ben Wallace 18.45
Bernard King 2.25
Bill Cartwright 3.40
Bill Hanzlik 0.60
Bill Laimbeer 2.00
Bill Walton 4.00
Billy Owens 0.40
Bob Lanier 3.00
Bob McAdoo 4.00
Bobby Jones 5.60
Bobby Phills 0.60
Brad Daugherty 0.90
Brandon Jennings 0.40
Brandon Roy 3.00
Brent Barry 2.00
Brevin Knight 0.40
Brian Grant 0.40
Brian Shaw 2.00
Brook Lopez 0.40
Bruce Bowen 8.80
Buck Williams 5.70
Byron Scott 3.40
Caldwell Jones 1.60
Calvin J. Murphy 3.00
Calvin Natt 0.40
Carl Herrera 2.00
Carlos Boozer 0.50
Carmelo Anthony 2.65
Caron Butler 0.40
Cedric Maxwell 2.00
Channing Frye 0.40
Charles Barkley 15.65
Charles Oakley 1.80
Charles Smith 0.40
Charlie Villanueva 0.40
Chauncey Billups 3.95
Chris Bosh 1.15
Chris Ford 1.00
Chris Mullin 3.00
Chris Paul 5.30
Chris Webber 5.90
Christian Laettner 0.40
Chuck Person 2.15
Clark Kellogg 0.40
Clifford Robinson 1.20
Clint Richardson 1.00
Clyde Drexler 7.50
Corliss Williamson 1.00
Dale Ellis 0.50
Damon Stoudamire 2.15
Dan Issel 3.00
Dan Majerle 1.20
Dan Roundfield 4.35
Danny Ainge 1.00
Danny Vranes 0.60
Darius Miles 0.40
Darrell Griffith 2.15
Darrell Walker 0.40
Darren Collison 0.40
Dave Cowens 3.60
David Greenwood 0.40
David Robinson 25.65
David Thompson 3.00
Dee Brown 0.40
Dennis Johnson 12.55
Dennis Rodman 17.00
Dennis Scott 0.40
Derek Fisher 4.00
Derek Harper 1.20
Deron Williams 1.90
Derrick Coleman 3.15
Derrick McKey 1.60
Derrick Rose 2.15
Detlef Schrempf 0.50
Devean George 1.00
Devin Brown 1.00
Dikembe Mutombo 15.95
Dirk Nowitzki 11.00
Dominique Wilkins 8.40
Don Buse 0.80
Doug Christie 2.60
Drazen Petrovic 3.50
Drew Gooden 0.40
Dudley Bradley 0.60
Dwight Howard 10.90
Dwyane Wade 7.20
Earl Monroe 3.00
Eddie House 1.00
Eddie Johnson 0.60
Eddie Jones 2.70
Elton Brand 2.90
Elvin E. Hayes 3.00
Emeka Okafor 2.15
Eric Snow 0.60
Fabricio Oberto 1.00
Francisco Elson 1.00
Franklin Edwards 1.00
Gary Payton 17.35
George Gervin 6.75
George Johnson 0.60
Gerald Henderson 2.00
Gerald Wallace 0.80
Gilbert Arenas 1.75
Glen Rice 2.25
Glenn Robinson 0.40
Grant Hill 6.15
Greg Anderson 0.40
Gus Williams 1.75
Hakeem Olajuwon 29.35
Hersey Hawkins 0.40
Horace Grant 6.40
Isaiah Rider 1.40
Isiah Thomas 8.90
Jack Sikma 0.60
Jamaal Wilkes 2.00
Jamal Mashburn 0.90
James Edwards 2.00
James Posey 2.00
James Worthy 7.40
Jason Caffey 1.00
Jason Kidd 14.10
Jason Richardson 0.40
Jason Williams 1.40
Jay Vincent 0.40
Jeff Green 0.40
Jeff Malone 0.40
Jeff Ruland 0.40
Jermaine O'Neal 1.75
Jerry Sichting 1.00
Jerry Stackhouse 0.40
Jim Chones 1.00
Joe Barry Carroll 0.40
Joe Dumars 10.95
Joe Johnson 0.50
Joe Smith 0.40
John Paxson 2.00
John Salley 2.00
John Starks 0.60
John Stockton 14.00
John Williams 0.40
Jordan Farmar 1.00
Jorge Garbajosa 0.40
Josh Smith 0.60
Julius Erving 11.00
Juwan Howard 0.50
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 17.70
Karl Malone 25.40
Keith Van Horn 0.40
Kelly Tripucka 0.40
Kelvin Ransey 0.40
Kendall Gill 0.40
Kendrick Perkins 1.00
Kenny Smith 2.40
Kenyon Martin 0.40
Kermit Washington 1.20
Kevin Durant 3.15
Kevin Garnett 21.25
Kevin Johnson 3.50
Kevin McHale 11.60
Kevin Willis 0.50
Kirk Hinrich 1.00
Kobe Bryant 26.10
Kurt Rambis 2.00
Lafayette Lever 1.35
Lamar Odom 2.40
LaMarcus Aldridge 0.40
LaPhonso Ellis 0.40
Larry Bird 27.70
Larry Hughes 0.80
Larry Johnson 2.90
Larry Nance 2.00
Larry Smith 0.40
Larry Spriggs 1.00
Latrell Sprewell 1.60
LeBron James 15.25
Lindsey Hunter 1.00
Lionel Simmons 0.40
Lonnie Shelton 0.60
Luc Longley 3.00
Luis Scola 0.40
Luol Deng 0.40
Magic Johnson 26.15
Malik Rose 1.00
Manu Ginobili 3.50
Manute Bol 0.60
Marc Iavaroni 1.00
Marc Jackson 0.40
Marcus Camby 5.60
Mario Elie 3.00
Mark Aguirre 1.00
Mark Eaton 8.40
Mark Jackson 2.15
Mark Price 2.50
Marques Johnson 1.50
Matt Harpring 0.40
Maurice Cheeks 4.80
Mehmet Okur 1.00
Michael Beasley 0.40
Michael Cooper 13.20
Michael Finley 1.40
Michael Jordan 46.50
Michael Redd 0.50
Micheal Ray Richardson 1.60
Micheal Williams 0.60
Mike Bibby 0.40
Mike Miller 2.15
Mitch Richmond 5.40
Mookie Blaylock 4.00
Morris Peterson 0.40
Moses Malone 16.05
Mychal Thompson 1.00
Nate Archibald 3.75
Nate McMillan 1.20
Nene Hilario 0.40
Norm Nixon 2.00
O.J. Mayo 0.40
Otis Birdsong 0.75
Otis Thorpe 1.00
P.J. Brown 1.80
Patrick Ewing 12.45
Pau Gasol 5.15
Paul Pierce 3.65
Paul Pressey 2.20
Paul Westphal 1.00
Peja Stojakovic 0.75
Pete Chilcutt 1.00
Pete Maravich 3.00
Pooh Richardson 0.40
Quinn Buckner 2.80
Quintin Dailey 0.40
Raja Bell 1.40
Rajon Rondo 2.40
Ralph Sampson 2.90
Randy Foye 0.40
Rasho Nesterovic 1.00
Ray Allen 2.25
Reggie Miller 1.50
Richard Hamilton 1.00
Rick Barry 3.00
Rick Fox 3.00
Rick Mahorn 1.60
Rick Robey 1.00
Rik Smits 0.40
Robert Horry 6.00
Robert Parish 7.25
Rod Strickland 0.75
Rodney McCray 1.40
Ron Artest 6.70
Ron Harper 4.40
Ron Mercer 0.40
Roy Tarpley 0.40
Rudy Gay 0.40
Russell Westbrook 0.40
Sam Bowie 0.40
Sam Cassell 1.75
Sam Perkins 0.40
Samaki Walker 1.00
Sasha Vujacic 1.00
Scott Brooks 1.00
Scott Wedman 1.60
Scott Williams 1.00
Scottie Pippen 22.10
Sean Elliott 1.00
Shane Battier 1.60
Shannon Brown 1.00
Shaquille O'Neal 22.45
Shareef Abdur-Rahim 0.40
Shawn Kemp 2.25
Shawn Marion 1.00
Sherman Douglas 0.40
Sidney Moncrief 11.85
Spencer Haywood 1.00
Stacey Augmon 0.40
Stacey King 1.00
Stephen Curry 0.40
Stephen Jackson 1.00
Stephon Marbury 1.40
Steve Francis 2.15
Steve Kerr 2.00
Steve Nash 11.50
Steve Smith 0.40
Steve Stipanovich 0.40
T. R. Dunn 1.80
Taj Gibson 0.40
Tayshaun Prince 3.40
Terry Cummings 3.40
Thabo Sefolosha 0.60
Theo Ratliff 1.20
Thurl Bailey 0.40
Tim Duncan 33.30
Tim Hardaway 4.15
Tiny Archibald 1.00
Tom Chambers 1.50
Tom Gugliotta 0.40
Toni Kukoc 3.00
Tony Allen 1.00
Tony Parker 3.90
Tracy McGrady 5.25
Trevor Ariza 1.00
Tyreke Evans 2.15
Udonis Haslem 1.00
Vernon Maxwell 2.00
Vin Baker 1.65
Vince Carter 3.40
Vinnie Johnson 2.00
Vlade Divac 0.40
Wally Szczerbiak 0.40
Walt Frazier 3.00
Wayne Rollins 1.40
Wes Unseld 3.00
Willie Anderson 0.40
Xavier McDaniel 0.40
Yao Ming 3.40
Zydrunas Ilgauskas 0.40
Quest for the Ring (QFTR) has provided the basketball world with the missing information and then some. Here for the second year we have the complete and correct listings for winners of the QFTR in multiple formats. Each year, scheduled for August, the following Reports are in this historical series:
1. Players and Teams Who Won the Quest for the Ring 1980-1994
2. Players and Teams Who Won the Quest for the Ring 1995-2010
3. Alphabetic Logs of all Players Who Have Won the Quest for the Ring 1980-2010
4. Players Ranked by Number of Championships and Rings Won Since 1980
5. Players Ranked by Minutes Played in Championship Years Since 1980
6. Most Recognized High Impact Players 1980-2010
7. Cities and Franchises That Won the Quest for the Ring 1950-2010
In 2010 these will be posted one each day beginning with #1 on August 21 and finishing with #7 on August 27.
After these look for the new and improved Real Coach Ratings and the second annual Report on player salaries, team payrolls, and team cap space.
Championships are by themselves crucial history, but they are also very important for the present, because players who have already won rings are, all other things equal, more valuable than players who have never won a ring. You might as well add about .050 to each such player's Real Player Rating. So a .700 becomes a.750, an .870 becomes a .920, and so forth.
MOST RECOGNIZED HIGH IMPACT PRO BASKETBALL PLAYERS 1980-2010
This brand new Report shows you every player who won a significant award and, using a carefully calibrated scale, ranks all the players who won one or more awards according to the relative value of all the awards and recognitions they won.
Scientifically speaking and in terms of who is going to win Championships and Rings, Real Player Ratings are more important than all of these recognitions combined. But this Report is what you need to keep up with the day to day and year to year media and popularity world that determines who the most famous pro basketball players are.
Basically, this Report combines all the media recognitions given to basketball players and computes an overall combined score that we call the "Recognition Score".
Fortunately, for the superstar basketball players there is a fairly good correlation between Real Player Ratings and Recognition Scores. Among mere stars the correlation is weaker. There are some players who were (or are) actually star pro basketball players, as could be shown by Real Player Ratings, but who have been very seldom and possibly never recognized with any of the awards.
The recognitions (awards) are defined and factored as follows:
RECOGNITION SCORE FACTORS
Hall of Fame 3.00
Most Valuable Player 3.00
Defensive Player of the Year 2.40
Rookie of the Year 1.75
Championship Rings 1.00
All NBA First Team 1.00
All NBA Defensive First Team 0.80
All NBA Second Team 0.75
All NBA Defensive Second Team 0.60
All NBA Rookie Team 0.40
The recognition weights are determined according to the following two considerations:
(1) How many have won the award or recognition. The fewer there are, the more difficult it is to win it, and the higher the factor. This is the primary item that determines how much the factor will be.
And (2) How valid is the award or recognition scientifically.
For example, the All NBA Teams are not a highly valid or scientific recognition. They are determined by votes of individuals who in most cases use their beliefs rather than any valid rating system such as Real Player Rating or the more well known but more complex Hollinger Player Efficiency Rating System at ESPN.
Specifically, the voting is conducted by a panel of sportswriters and broadcasters throughout the United States and Canada. Just like coaches sometimes do, sportswriters can and will sometimes make the mistake of bringing in player styles and personalities to their voting decisions, which will often lead to distortion of the ratings. This is because it is known beyond a shadow of a doubt that “how good” a player really is is a result of many things, of which style and personality are just two relatively minor ones. But what some misguided coaches and others do is get fixated (or hung up) on the styles and personalities themselves, and so they end up rating styles and personalities rather than basketball capabilities of players.
Therefore, the All NBA Teams recognitions are rated somewhat lower than they would be if it was a more scientific thing. If the All NBA Teams were chosen validly, the weights given to them would be as much as double what they are.
If in other words for example the First All NBA Team really was for sure the best five players in the NBA, you could justify using a factor for that twice as much as the factor for winning a Championship. After all, on a Championship starting team, you don't have the five best players in the NBA, but rather you have five of the better players, with perhaps one or two players on the Championship team among the top five players in the NBA. So if it were valid the All NBA First Team could be factored as twice as valuable. On the other hand, winning a Championship is very hard often difficult work, so we would never rate the All NBA First Team as worth more than twice what a Championship is worth even if the First Team was validly selected. In other words, we would never downplay how much hard work it is to win a Championship relative to how good a player is in the abstract.
But again, since the selection is not scientifically valid, we factor the All NBA First Team recognition as just the same as for winning a Championship (both are given a factor of 1.0).
EXAMPLE
How are Recognition Scores calculated? For example, if a player was on the All NBA Defensive First Team once, was Rookie of the Year once, and was Most Valuable Player twice, his recognition score would be (.80 X 1) + (1.75 X 1) + (3 X 2) = 8.55.
Note that for Championship Rings, only players who played 1,200 minutes or more in the year when their team won the Championship are included. We debated whether to use the 300 minutes threshold or the 1,200 minutes one, but decided to go with the 1,200 minutes one since players who played between 300 and 1,199 minutes played only a marginal role. However, this was a tough, close call and we might possibly change this for next year.
An interesting question is: what percentage of NBA players get recognized at least once? The answer is that roughly 15% (between 14% and 16%) get recognized at least one time during their careers. Roughly 85% never get recognized in any of the ten ways shown above.
Now its finally time for the breakdown of the most recognized pro basketball players from the last 31 years. There are two slightly different listings. The first one shows players ranked by their Recognition Scores.
The second listing down below will show players who have been recognized at least one time alphabetically (by first name).
========== MOST RECOGNIZED HIGH IMPACT PRO BASKETBALL PLAYERS 1980-2010 ==========
--Ranked by Recognition Scores
--Ten recognitions are considered; for details see the explanation above
--Championship rings are counted only for players who played 1,200 minutes or more during the season their teams won
--The format for each entry is Rank / Player / Recognition Score
1 Michael Jordan 46.50
2 Tim Duncan 33.30
3 Hakeem Olajuwon 29.35
4 Larry Bird 27.70
5 Magic Johnson 26.15
6 Kobe Bryant 26.10
7 David Robinson 25.65
8 Karl Malone 25.40
9 Shaquille O'Neal 22.45
10 Scottie Pippen 22.10
11 Kevin Garnett 21.25
12 Ben Wallace 18.45
13 Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 17.70
14 Gary Payton 17.35
15 Dennis Rodman 17.00
16 Moses Malone 16.05
17 Dikembe Mutombo 15.95
18 Charles Barkley 15.65
19 LeBron James 15.25
20 Jason Kidd 14.10
21 John Stockton 14.00
22 Michael Cooper 13.20
23 Dennis Johnson 12.55
24 Patrick Ewing 12.45
25 Sidney Moncrief 11.85
26 Kevin McHale 11.60
27 Steve Nash 11.50
28 Dirk Nowitzki 11.00
29 Julius Erving 11.00
30 Joe Dumars 10.95
31 Allen Iverson 10.90
32 Dwight Howard 10.90
33 Alonzo Mourning 9.55
34 Isiah Thomas 8.90
35 Bruce Bowen 8.80
36 Dominique Wilkins 8.40
37 Mark Eaton 8.40
38 Clyde Drexler 7.50
39 James Worthy 7.40
40 Robert Parish 7.25
41 Dwyane Wade 7.20
42 Alvin Robertson 7.15
43 George Gervin 6.75
44 Ron Artest 6.70
45 Horace Grant 6.40
46 Grant Hill 6.15
47 Robert Horry 6.00
48 Chris Webber 5.90
49 Buck Williams 5.70
50 Marcus Camby 5.60
51 Bobby Jones 5.60
52 Amare Stoudemire 5.40
53 Mitch Richmond 5.40
54 Chris Paul 5.30
55 Alex English 5.25
56 Tracy McGrady 5.25
57 Pau Gasol 5.15
58 Maurice Cheeks 4.80
59 Adrian Dantley 4.75
60 Ron Harper 4.40
61 Dan Roundfield 4.35
62 Tim Hardaway 4.15
63 Bill Walton 4.00
64 Bob McAdoo 4.00
65 Derek Fisher 4.00
66 Mookie Blaylock 4.00
67 Chauncey Billups 3.95
68 Tony Parker 3.90
69 Nate Archibald 3.75
70 Paul Pierce 3.65
71 A. C. Green 3.60
72 Dave Cowens 3.60
73 Drazen Petrovic 3.50
74 Kevin Johnson 3.50
75 Manu Ginobili 3.50
76 Bill Cartwright 3.40
77 Byron Scott 3.40
78 Tayshaun Prince 3.40
79 Terry Cummings 3.40
80 Vince Carter 3.40
81 Yao Ming 3.40
82 Derrick Coleman 3.15
83 Kevin Durant 3.15
84 B.J. Armstrong 3.00
85 Bob Lanier 3.00
86 Brandon Roy 3.00
87 Calvin J. Murphy 3.00
88 Chris Mullin 3.00
89 Dan Issel 3.00
90 David Thompson 3.00
91 Earl Monroe 3.00
92 Elvin E. Hayes 3.00
93 Luc Longley 3.00
94 Mario Elie 3.00
95 Pete Maravich 3.00
96 Rick Barry 3.00
97 Rick Fox 3.00
98 Toni Kukoc 3.00
99 Walt Frazier 3.00
100 Wes Unseld 3.00
101 Anfernee Hardaway 2.90
102 Elton Brand 2.90
103 Larry Johnson 2.90
104 Ralph Sampson 2.90
105 Quinn Buckner 2.80
106 Eddie Jones 2.70
107 Carmelo Anthony 2.65
108 Doug Christie 2.60
109 Mark Price 2.50
110 Andrei Kirilenko 2.40
111 Kenny Smith 2.40
112 Lamar Odom 2.40
113 Rajon Rondo 2.40
114 Bernard King 2.25
115 Glen Rice 2.25
116 Ray Allen 2.25
117 Shawn Kemp 2.25
118 Paul Pressey 2.20
119 Chuck Person 2.15
120 Damon Stoudamire 2.15
121 Darrell Griffith 2.15
122 Derrick Rose 2.15
123 Emeka Okafor 2.15
124 Mark Jackson 2.15
125 Mike Miller 2.15
126 Steve Francis 2.15
127 Tyreke Evans 2.15
128 Andrew Bynum 2.00
129 Bill Laimbeer 2.00
130 Brent Barry 2.00
131 Brian Shaw 2.00
132 Carl Herrera 2.00
133 Cedric Maxwell 2.00
134 Gerald Henderson 2.00
135 Jamaal Wilkes 2.00
136 James Edwards 2.00
137 James Posey 2.00
138 John Paxson 2.00
139 John Salley 2.00
140 Kurt Rambis 2.00
141 Larry Nance 2.00
142 Norm Nixon 2.00
143 Steve Kerr 2.00
144 Vernon Maxwell 2.00
145 Vinnie Johnson 2.00
146 Deron Williams 1.90
147 Charles Oakley 1.80
148 P.J. Brown 1.80
149 T. R. Dunn 1.80
150 Gilbert Arenas 1.75
151 Gus Williams 1.75
152 Jermaine O'Neal 1.75
153 Sam Cassell 1.75
154 Vin Baker 1.65
155 Caldwell Jones 1.60
156 Derrick McKey 1.60
157 Latrell Sprewell 1.60
158 Micheal Ray Richardson 1.60
159 Rick Mahorn 1.60
160 Scott Wedman 1.60
161 Shane Battier 1.60
162 Marques Johnson 1.50
163 Reggie Miller 1.50
164 Tom Chambers 1.50
165 Antoine Walker 1.40
166 Isaiah Rider 1.40
167 Jason Williams 1.40
168 Michael Finley 1.40
169 Raja Bell 1.40
170 Rodney McCray 1.40
171 Stephon Marbury 1.40
172 Wayne Rollins 1.40
173 Lafayette Lever 1.35
174 Clifford Robinson 1.20
175 Dan Majerle 1.20
176 Derek Harper 1.20
177 Kermit Washington 1.20
178 Nate McMillan 1.20
179 Theo Ratliff 1.20
180 Chris Bosh 1.15
181 Anthony Mason 1.10
182 Andrew Toney 1.00
183 Avery Johnson 1.00
184 Chris Ford 1.00
185 Clint Richardson 1.00
186 Corliss Williamson 1.00
187 Danny Ainge 1.00
188 Devean George 1.00
189 Devin Brown 1.00
190 Eddie House 1.00
191 Fabricio Oberto 1.00
192 Francisco Elson 1.00
193 Franklin Edwards 1.00
194 Jason Caffey 1.00
195 Jerry Sichting 1.00
196 Jim Chones 1.00
197 Jordan Farmar 1.00
198 Kendrick Perkins 1.00
199 Kirk Hinrich 1.00
200 Larry Spriggs 1.00
201 Lindsey Hunter 1.00
202 Malik Rose 1.00
203 Marc Iavaroni 1.00
204 Mark Aguirre 1.00
205 Mehmet Okur 1.00
206 Mychal Thompson 1.00
207 Otis Thorpe 1.00
208 Paul Westphal 1.00
209 Pete Chilcutt 1.00
210 Rasho Nesterovic 1.00
211 Richard Hamilton 1.00
212 Rick Robey 1.00
213 Samaki Walker 1.00
214 Sasha Vujacic 1.00
215 Scott Brooks 1.00
216 Scott Williams 1.00
217 Sean Elliott 1.00
218 Shannon Brown 1.00
219 Shawn Marion 1.00
220 Spencer Haywood 1.00
221 Stacey King 1.00
222 Stephen Jackson 1.00
223 Tiny Archibald 1.00
224 Tony Allen 1.00
225 Trevor Ariza 1.00
226 Udonis Haslem 1.00
227 Andrew Bogut 0.90
228 Antonio McDyess 0.90
229 Brad Daugherty 0.90
230 Jamal Mashburn 0.90
231 Don Buse 0.80
232 Gerald Wallace 0.80
233 Larry Hughes 0.80
234 Otis Birdsong 0.75
235 Peja Stojakovic 0.75
236 Rod Strickland 0.75
237 Anderson Varejao 0.60
238 Bill Hanzlik 0.60
239 Bobby Phills 0.60
240 Danny Vranes 0.60
241 Dudley Bradley 0.60
242 Eddie Johnson 0.60
243 Eric Snow 0.60
244 George Johnson 0.60
245 Jack Sikma 0.60
246 John Starks 0.60
247 Josh Smith 0.60
248 Lonnie Shelton 0.60
249 Manute Bol 0.60
250 Micheal Williams 0.60
251 Thabo Sefolosha 0.60
252 Baron Davis 0.50
253 Carlos Boozer 0.50
254 Dale Ellis 0.50
255 Detlef Schrempf 0.50
256 Joe Johnson 0.50
257 Juwan Howard 0.50
258 Kevin Willis 0.50
259 Michael Redd 0.50
260 Al Horford 0.40
261 Al Thornton 0.40
262 Andre Iguodala 0.40
263 Andre Miller 0.40
264 Andrea Bargnani 0.40
265 Armon Gilliam 0.40
266 Arvydas Sabonis 0.40
267 Ben Gordon 0.40
268 Billy Owens 0.40
269 Brandon Jennings 0.40
270 Brevin Knight 0.40
271 Brian Grant 0.40
272 Brook Lopez 0.40
273 Calvin Natt 0.40
274 Caron Butler 0.40
275 Channing Frye 0.40
276 Charles Smith 0.40
277 Charlie Villanueva 0.40
278 Christian Laettner 0.40
279 Clark Kellogg 0.40
280 Darius Miles 0.40
281 Darrell Walker 0.40
282 Darren Collison 0.40
283 David Greenwood 0.40
284 Dee Brown 0.40
285 Dennis Scott 0.40
286 Drew Gooden 0.40
287 Glenn Robinson 0.40
288 Greg Anderson 0.40
289 Hersey Hawkins 0.40
290 Jason Richardson 0.40
291 Jay Vincent 0.40
292 Jeff Green 0.40
293 Jeff Malone 0.40
294 Jeff Ruland 0.40
295 Jerry Stackhouse 0.40
296 Joe Barry Carroll 0.40
297 Joe Smith 0.40
298 John Williams 0.40
299 Jorge Garbajosa 0.40
300 Keith Van Horn 0.40
301 Kelly Tripucka 0.40
302 Kelvin Ransey 0.40
303 Kendall Gill 0.40
304 Kenyon Martin 0.40
305 LaMarcus Aldridge 0.40
306 LaPhonso Ellis 0.40
307 Larry Smith 0.40
308 Lionel Simmons 0.40
309 Luis Scola 0.40
310 Luol Deng 0.40
311 Marc Jackson 0.40
312 Matt Harpring 0.40
313 Michael Beasley 0.40
314 Mike Bibby 0.40
315 Morris Peterson 0.40
316 Nene Hilario 0.40
317 O.J. Mayo 0.40
318 Pooh Richardson 0.40
319 Quintin Dailey 0.40
320 Randy Foye 0.40
321 Rik Smits 0.40
322 Ron Mercer 0.40
323 Roy Tarpley 0.40
324 Rudy Gay 0.40
325 Russell Westbrook 0.40
326 Sam Bowie 0.40
327 Sam Perkins 0.40
328 Shareef Abdur-Rahim 0.40
329 Sherman Douglas 0.40
330 Stacey Augmon 0.40
331 Stephen Curry 0.40
332 Steve Smith 0.40
333 Steve Stipanovich 0.40
334 Taj Gibson 0.40
335 Thurl Bailey 0.40
336 Tom Gugliotta 0.40
337 Vlade Divac 0.40
338 Wally Szczerbiak 0.40
339 Willie Anderson 0.40
340 Xavier McDaniel 0.40
341 Zydrunas Ilgauskas 0.40
========== MOST RECOGNIZED HIGH IMPACT PRO BASKETBALL PLAYERS 1980-2010 ==========
--Shown Alphabetically
--Ten recognitions are considered; for details see the explanation above
--Championship rings are counted only for players who played 1,200 minutes or more during the season their teams won
--The format for each line is Player / Recognition Score
A. C. Green 3.60
Adrian Dantley 4.75
Al Horford 0.40
Al Thornton 0.40
Alex English 5.25
Allen Iverson 10.90
Alonzo Mourning 9.55
Alvin Robertson 7.15
Amare Stoudemire 5.40
Anderson Varejao 0.60
Andre Iguodala 0.40
Andre Miller 0.40
Andrea Bargnani 0.40
Andrei Kirilenko 2.40
Andrew Bogut 0.90
Andrew Bynum 2.00
Andrew Toney 1.00
Anfernee Hardaway 2.90
Anthony Mason 1.10
Antoine Walker 1.40
Antonio McDyess 0.90
Armon Gilliam 0.40
Arvydas Sabonis 0.40
Avery Johnson 1.00
B.J. Armstrong 3.00
Baron Davis 0.50
Ben Gordon 0.40
Ben Wallace 18.45
Bernard King 2.25
Bill Cartwright 3.40
Bill Hanzlik 0.60
Bill Laimbeer 2.00
Bill Walton 4.00
Billy Owens 0.40
Bob Lanier 3.00
Bob McAdoo 4.00
Bobby Jones 5.60
Bobby Phills 0.60
Brad Daugherty 0.90
Brandon Jennings 0.40
Brandon Roy 3.00
Brent Barry 2.00
Brevin Knight 0.40
Brian Grant 0.40
Brian Shaw 2.00
Brook Lopez 0.40
Bruce Bowen 8.80
Buck Williams 5.70
Byron Scott 3.40
Caldwell Jones 1.60
Calvin J. Murphy 3.00
Calvin Natt 0.40
Carl Herrera 2.00
Carlos Boozer 0.50
Carmelo Anthony 2.65
Caron Butler 0.40
Cedric Maxwell 2.00
Channing Frye 0.40
Charles Barkley 15.65
Charles Oakley 1.80
Charles Smith 0.40
Charlie Villanueva 0.40
Chauncey Billups 3.95
Chris Bosh 1.15
Chris Ford 1.00
Chris Mullin 3.00
Chris Paul 5.30
Chris Webber 5.90
Christian Laettner 0.40
Chuck Person 2.15
Clark Kellogg 0.40
Clifford Robinson 1.20
Clint Richardson 1.00
Clyde Drexler 7.50
Corliss Williamson 1.00
Dale Ellis 0.50
Damon Stoudamire 2.15
Dan Issel 3.00
Dan Majerle 1.20
Dan Roundfield 4.35
Danny Ainge 1.00
Danny Vranes 0.60
Darius Miles 0.40
Darrell Griffith 2.15
Darrell Walker 0.40
Darren Collison 0.40
Dave Cowens 3.60
David Greenwood 0.40
David Robinson 25.65
David Thompson 3.00
Dee Brown 0.40
Dennis Johnson 12.55
Dennis Rodman 17.00
Dennis Scott 0.40
Derek Fisher 4.00
Derek Harper 1.20
Deron Williams 1.90
Derrick Coleman 3.15
Derrick McKey 1.60
Derrick Rose 2.15
Detlef Schrempf 0.50
Devean George 1.00
Devin Brown 1.00
Dikembe Mutombo 15.95
Dirk Nowitzki 11.00
Dominique Wilkins 8.40
Don Buse 0.80
Doug Christie 2.60
Drazen Petrovic 3.50
Drew Gooden 0.40
Dudley Bradley 0.60
Dwight Howard 10.90
Dwyane Wade 7.20
Earl Monroe 3.00
Eddie House 1.00
Eddie Johnson 0.60
Eddie Jones 2.70
Elton Brand 2.90
Elvin E. Hayes 3.00
Emeka Okafor 2.15
Eric Snow 0.60
Fabricio Oberto 1.00
Francisco Elson 1.00
Franklin Edwards 1.00
Gary Payton 17.35
George Gervin 6.75
George Johnson 0.60
Gerald Henderson 2.00
Gerald Wallace 0.80
Gilbert Arenas 1.75
Glen Rice 2.25
Glenn Robinson 0.40
Grant Hill 6.15
Greg Anderson 0.40
Gus Williams 1.75
Hakeem Olajuwon 29.35
Hersey Hawkins 0.40
Horace Grant 6.40
Isaiah Rider 1.40
Isiah Thomas 8.90
Jack Sikma 0.60
Jamaal Wilkes 2.00
Jamal Mashburn 0.90
James Edwards 2.00
James Posey 2.00
James Worthy 7.40
Jason Caffey 1.00
Jason Kidd 14.10
Jason Richardson 0.40
Jason Williams 1.40
Jay Vincent 0.40
Jeff Green 0.40
Jeff Malone 0.40
Jeff Ruland 0.40
Jermaine O'Neal 1.75
Jerry Sichting 1.00
Jerry Stackhouse 0.40
Jim Chones 1.00
Joe Barry Carroll 0.40
Joe Dumars 10.95
Joe Johnson 0.50
Joe Smith 0.40
John Paxson 2.00
John Salley 2.00
John Starks 0.60
John Stockton 14.00
John Williams 0.40
Jordan Farmar 1.00
Jorge Garbajosa 0.40
Josh Smith 0.60
Julius Erving 11.00
Juwan Howard 0.50
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 17.70
Karl Malone 25.40
Keith Van Horn 0.40
Kelly Tripucka 0.40
Kelvin Ransey 0.40
Kendall Gill 0.40
Kendrick Perkins 1.00
Kenny Smith 2.40
Kenyon Martin 0.40
Kermit Washington 1.20
Kevin Durant 3.15
Kevin Garnett 21.25
Kevin Johnson 3.50
Kevin McHale 11.60
Kevin Willis 0.50
Kirk Hinrich 1.00
Kobe Bryant 26.10
Kurt Rambis 2.00
Lafayette Lever 1.35
Lamar Odom 2.40
LaMarcus Aldridge 0.40
LaPhonso Ellis 0.40
Larry Bird 27.70
Larry Hughes 0.80
Larry Johnson 2.90
Larry Nance 2.00
Larry Smith 0.40
Larry Spriggs 1.00
Latrell Sprewell 1.60
LeBron James 15.25
Lindsey Hunter 1.00
Lionel Simmons 0.40
Lonnie Shelton 0.60
Luc Longley 3.00
Luis Scola 0.40
Luol Deng 0.40
Magic Johnson 26.15
Malik Rose 1.00
Manu Ginobili 3.50
Manute Bol 0.60
Marc Iavaroni 1.00
Marc Jackson 0.40
Marcus Camby 5.60
Mario Elie 3.00
Mark Aguirre 1.00
Mark Eaton 8.40
Mark Jackson 2.15
Mark Price 2.50
Marques Johnson 1.50
Matt Harpring 0.40
Maurice Cheeks 4.80
Mehmet Okur 1.00
Michael Beasley 0.40
Michael Cooper 13.20
Michael Finley 1.40
Michael Jordan 46.50
Michael Redd 0.50
Micheal Ray Richardson 1.60
Micheal Williams 0.60
Mike Bibby 0.40
Mike Miller 2.15
Mitch Richmond 5.40
Mookie Blaylock 4.00
Morris Peterson 0.40
Moses Malone 16.05
Mychal Thompson 1.00
Nate Archibald 3.75
Nate McMillan 1.20
Nene Hilario 0.40
Norm Nixon 2.00
O.J. Mayo 0.40
Otis Birdsong 0.75
Otis Thorpe 1.00
P.J. Brown 1.80
Patrick Ewing 12.45
Pau Gasol 5.15
Paul Pierce 3.65
Paul Pressey 2.20
Paul Westphal 1.00
Peja Stojakovic 0.75
Pete Chilcutt 1.00
Pete Maravich 3.00
Pooh Richardson 0.40
Quinn Buckner 2.80
Quintin Dailey 0.40
Raja Bell 1.40
Rajon Rondo 2.40
Ralph Sampson 2.90
Randy Foye 0.40
Rasho Nesterovic 1.00
Ray Allen 2.25
Reggie Miller 1.50
Richard Hamilton 1.00
Rick Barry 3.00
Rick Fox 3.00
Rick Mahorn 1.60
Rick Robey 1.00
Rik Smits 0.40
Robert Horry 6.00
Robert Parish 7.25
Rod Strickland 0.75
Rodney McCray 1.40
Ron Artest 6.70
Ron Harper 4.40
Ron Mercer 0.40
Roy Tarpley 0.40
Rudy Gay 0.40
Russell Westbrook 0.40
Sam Bowie 0.40
Sam Cassell 1.75
Sam Perkins 0.40
Samaki Walker 1.00
Sasha Vujacic 1.00
Scott Brooks 1.00
Scott Wedman 1.60
Scott Williams 1.00
Scottie Pippen 22.10
Sean Elliott 1.00
Shane Battier 1.60
Shannon Brown 1.00
Shaquille O'Neal 22.45
Shareef Abdur-Rahim 0.40
Shawn Kemp 2.25
Shawn Marion 1.00
Sherman Douglas 0.40
Sidney Moncrief 11.85
Spencer Haywood 1.00
Stacey Augmon 0.40
Stacey King 1.00
Stephen Curry 0.40
Stephen Jackson 1.00
Stephon Marbury 1.40
Steve Francis 2.15
Steve Kerr 2.00
Steve Nash 11.50
Steve Smith 0.40
Steve Stipanovich 0.40
T. R. Dunn 1.80
Taj Gibson 0.40
Tayshaun Prince 3.40
Terry Cummings 3.40
Thabo Sefolosha 0.60
Theo Ratliff 1.20
Thurl Bailey 0.40
Tim Duncan 33.30
Tim Hardaway 4.15
Tiny Archibald 1.00
Tom Chambers 1.50
Tom Gugliotta 0.40
Toni Kukoc 3.00
Tony Allen 1.00
Tony Parker 3.90
Tracy McGrady 5.25
Trevor Ariza 1.00
Tyreke Evans 2.15
Udonis Haslem 1.00
Vernon Maxwell 2.00
Vin Baker 1.65
Vince Carter 3.40
Vinnie Johnson 2.00
Vlade Divac 0.40
Wally Szczerbiak 0.40
Walt Frazier 3.00
Wayne Rollins 1.40
Wes Unseld 3.00
Willie Anderson 0.40
Xavier McDaniel 0.40
Yao Ming 3.40
Zydrunas Ilgauskas 0.40
Wednesday, August 25, 2010
Players Ranked by Championship Minutes Played Since 1980
Last year I discovered that nobody cares about how many rings pro basketball players have. Well, not exactly, but I discovered that no one cares enough to keep track and post the numbers on the Internet. I guess people don’t really respect NBA Champions the way they think they do. Even on monster statistical sites there is no page to go to listing NBA player champions year by year, or the number of rings won by player. Sure, you find short and usually incomplete lists of players who have won three or more rings drifting around, but forget about a complete list unless you get it here.
Quest for the Ring (QFTR) has provided the basketball world with the missing information and then some. Here for the second year we have the complete and correct listings for winners of the QFTR in multiple formats. Each year, scheduled for August, the following Reports are in this historical series:
1. Players and Teams Who Won the Quest for the Ring 1980-1994
2. Players and Teams Who Won the Quest for the Ring 1995-2010
3. Alphabetic Logs of all Players Who Have Won the Quest for the Ring 1980-2010
4. Players Ranked by Number of Championships and Rings Won Since 1980
5. Players Ranked by Minutes Played in Championship Years Since 1980
6. Most Recognized High Impact Players 1980-2010
7. Cities and Franchises That Won the Quest for the Ring 1950-2010
In 2010 these will be posted one each day beginning with #1 on August 21 and finishing with #7 on August 27.
After these look for the new and improved Real Coach Ratings and the second annual Report on player salaries, team payrolls, and team cap space.
Championships are by themselves crucial history, but they are also very important for the present, because players who have already won rings are, all other things equal, more valuable than players who have never won a ring. You might as well add about .050 to each such player's Real Player Rating. So a .700 becomes a.750, an .870 becomes a .920, and so forth.
PLAYERS RANKED BY CHAMPIONSHIP MINUTES PLAYED SINCE 1980
There are two versions. The first listing is called the inclusive version. In this one all players who won who played 300 minutes or more during any and all Championship seasons are included. So the first listing includes all players except ones who played very, very little. Players who played fewer than 300 minutes are not listed in either version.
The second listing is called the strict version. In this one all players who played 1,200 minutes or more during any and all Championship seasons are included. The second listing includes only players who were starters or heavy minutes non-starters for much of the season.
Even our listings are technically incomplete, because they cover only the modern era, the years from 1979-80 to the present. We simply have very little interest in years prior to 1980. For one thing, there was no 3-point shot prior to 1980, which to QFTR is an indispensible part of basketball. In fact, if the 3-point shot was removed from the game, we would chances are shut down this Site.
Each entry consists of (1) The rank (2) The player (3) The total minutes the player was on the court during all seasons when he and his team won the Championship and (4) The number of rings. In this report the rankings are by total minutes.
QFTR's basketball history project, which has now grown to seven Reports scheduled for August each year, was originally motivated by the realization that no one anywhere has in one spot a complete listing of all players who have won rings and how many they won.
Just posted yesterday was the straight up ranking of players by number of rings won, was what originally motivated QFTR's history of basketball project. In this related but separate Report this information is shown with number of minutes for the rankings.
Minutes played are a pretty good approximation of how good the player was. So therefore when you rank by number of minutes, you are getting a relatively rough but halfway decent ranking according to how good the players were while they were winning their Championships. Many will agree that the listing by minutes rather than the straight up number of rings is the better "ultimate ranking" of pro basketball Champions.
Real Player Ratings produced by QFTR in very recent years are obviously better than number of minutes. In an ideal world, we would be able to calculate Real Player Ratings for all the Championship teams and rank by them rather than by minutes. In the real world, we don't right now have the resources to do this, mainly because the data needed to calculate hidden defending is not available for years prior to 2005-06.
Incidentally, we will in the not too distant future report out the Ratings for the 2006, 2007, and 2008 Championship teams. The Ratings for the 2008 Celtics were reported but in the relatively crude version with no hidden defending adjustments, so they need to be redone.
Getting back to the task at hand, we have to use minutes in these historical Reports. Always remember that, as the User Guide to the Real Player Rating system explains, when you compare two players, the player with more minutes is not necessarily the better player. But that is often true. The bigger the gap in minutes, the more likely it is that the player with more minutes was the better player.
The format in the first version just below is rank/player/number of rings/total minutes played during those Championship seasons. The sorting order is number of minutes.
========== PLAYERS RANKED BY CHAMPIONSHIP MINUTES PLAYED SINCE 1980 ==========
-Inclusive version: Includes all players in all Championship seasons who played 300 minutes or more
-Includes years 1980-2010
Rank / Player / Minutes / Rings
1 Michael Jordan 18,580 6
2 Scottie Pippen 16,873 6
3 Kobe Bryant 14,165 5
4 Magic Johnson 14,108 5
5 Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 13,199 5
6 Robert Horry 12,376 7
7 Dennis Rodman 11,476 5
8 Horace Grant 10,635 4
9 Michael Cooper 10,405 5
10 Shaquille O'Neal 10,315 4
11 Tim Duncan 10,072 4
12 Larry Bird 9,380 3
13 Derek Fisher 9,154 5
14 Ron Harper 9,091 5
15 James Worthy 8,170 3
16 Robert Parish 8,138 4
17 Byron Scott 8,082 3
18 Tony Parker 8,008 3
19 Bruce Bowen 7,657 3
20 A.C. Green 6,805 3
21 Jamaal Wilkes 6,778 3
22 Kevin McHale 6,619 3
23 Steve Kerr 6,585 5
24 Norm Nixon 6,250 2
25 Hakeem Olajuwon 6,130 2
26 B.J. Armstrong 6,098 3
27 Rick Fox 6,053 3
28 Toni Kukoc 5,948 3
29 Isiah Thomas 5,917 2
30 Manu Ginobili 5,684 3
31 Pau Gasol 5,402 2
32 Dennis Johnson 5,397 2
33 Bill Laimbeer 5,315 2
34 Cedric Maxwell 5,232 2
35 Kurt Rambis 5,107 4
36 Bill Cartwright 4,997 3
37 Joe Dumars 4,986 2
38 John Paxson 4,947 3
39 Lamar Odom 4,901 2
40 Luc Longley 4,816 3
41 Mario Elie 4,793 3
42 Vernon Maxwell 4,609 2
43 Kenny Smith 4,239 2
44 Otis Thorpe 4,097 2
45 Vinnie Johnson 4,045 2
46 Gerald Henderson 4,031 3
47 James Posey 3,735 2
48 Brian Shaw 3,713 3
49 John Salley 3,675 3
50 Danny Ainge 3,561 2
51 James Edwards 3,537 2
52 Stacey King 3,525 3
53 Andrew Bynum 3,423 2
54 Will Perdue 3,422 4
55 Malik Rose 3,403 3
56 Brent Barry 3,373 2
57 David Robinson 3,230 2
58 Mark Aguirre 3,073 2
59 Ben Wallace 3,050 1
60 Sam Cassell 3,004 2
61 Moses Malone 2,922 1
62 Dwyane Wade 2,892 1
63 Randy Brown 2,875 3
64 Paul Pierce 2,874 1
65 Tiny Archibald 2,820 1
66 Richard Hamilton 2,772 1
67 Chauncey Billups 2,758 1
68 Chris Ford 2,723 1
69 Tayshaun Prince 2,701 1
70 Devean George 2,697 3
71 Mychal Thompson 2,687 2
72 Jordan Farmar 2,666 2
73 Jason Caffey 2,660 3
74 Ray Allen 2,624 1
75 Carl Herrera 2,623 2
76 Ron Artest 2,605 1
77 Glen Rice 2,530 1
78 Udonis Haslem 2,491 1
79 Andrew Toney 2,474 1
80 Maurice Cheeks 2,465 1
81 Julius Erving 2,421 1
82 Scott Williams 2,396 3
83 Jim Chones 2,394 1
84 Kevin Garnett 2,328 1
85 Scott Wedman 2,318 2
86 Bill Wennington 2,315 3
87 Rajon Rondo 2,306 1
88 Gary Payton 2,305 1
89 Lindsey Hunter 2,277 2
90 Stephen Jackson 2,254 1
91 Antoine Walker 2,199 1
92 Beno Udrih 2,097 2
93 Jud Buechler 2,051 3
94 Cliff Levingston 2,033 2
95 Bob McAdoo 2,000 2
96 Trevor Ariza 1,998 1
97 Kendrick Perkins 1,912 1
98 Jason Williams 1,874 1
99 Sasha Vujacic 1,868 2
100 Michael Finley 1,823 1
101 Rick Mahorn 1,795 1
102 Rasho Nesterovic 1,785 1
103 Clint Richardson 1,755 1
104 Bobby Jones 1,749 1
105 Shannon Brown 1,700 1
106 Avery Johnson 1,672 1
107 Samaki Walker 1,655 1
108 Marc Iavaroni 1,612 1
109 Jerry Sichting 1,596 1
110 Mehmet Okur 1,580 1
111 Corliss Williamson 1,574 1
112 Rick Robey 1,569 1
113 Bill Walton 1,546 1
114 Spencer Haywood 1,544 1
115 Mitch Kupchak 1,537 2
116 Mike McGee 1,522 2
117 Sean Elliott 1,509 1
118 Mark Landsberger 1,508 2
119 Eddie House 1,480 1
120 Craig Hodges 1,398 2
121 Tony Allen 1,373 1
122 Fabricio Oberto 1,365 1
123 Pete Chilcutt 1,347 1
124 Adrian Dantley 1,341 1
125 Francisco Elson 1,332 1
126 Alonzo Mourning 1,302 1
127 Clyde Drexler 1,300 1
128 Larry Spriggs 1,292 1
129 Mark Madsen 1,291 2
130 Josh Powell 1,284 2
131 Franklin Edwards 1,266 1
132 Quinn Buckner 1,249 1
133 M.L. Carr 1,240 2
134 Wes Matthews 1,238 2
135 Devin Brown 1,238 1
136 Scott Brooks 1,225 1
137 Isaiah Rider 1,206 1
138 Luke Walton 1,166 1
139 Scott Burrell 1,096 1
140 Dickey Simpkins 1,080 2
141 Steve Smith 1,032 1
142 Rodney McCray 1,019 1
143 Earl Cureton 987 1
144 Jim Brewer 966 1
145 Glen Davis 940 1
146 Trent Tucker 909 1
147 Elden Campbell 892 1
148 Jaren Jackson 861 1
149 Mike Penberthy 851 1
150 Kevin Willis 840 1
151 Chucky Brown 814 1
152 Leon Powe 809 1
153 Vladimir Radmanovic 771 1
154 Bob Hansen 769 1
155 Billy Thompson 762 1
156 Jacque Vaughn 760 1
157 Rick Carlisle 760 1
158 Chucky Atkins 751 1
159 Stanislav Medvedenko 729 1
160 Dennis Hopson 728 1
161 Matt Bullard 725 1
162 Mitch Richmond 709 1
163 Bob Sura 707 1
164 Russ Schoene 702 1
165 Jerome Kersey 699 1
166 Tony Massenburg 699 1
167 Clemon Johnson 698 1
168 Rasheed Wallace 673 1
169 Jason Kapono 665 1
170 Matt Bonner 654 1
171 Shandon Anderson 638 1
172 Antonio Daniels 614 1
173 Eddie Jordan 608 1
174 Danny Ferry 601 1
175 Don Ford 580 1
176 Reggie Johnson 549 1
177 Brian Scalabrine 512 1
178 Mike James 512 1
179 Darvin Ham 484 1
180 Speedy Claxton 471 1
181 Tyronn Lue 468 1
182 Derek Anderson 465 1
183 Greg Kite 464 1
184 Greg Foster 451 1
185 Sam Vincent 432 1
186 Mike Smrek 421 1
187 Nazr Mohammed 414 1
188 Wayne Simien 414 1
189 Travis Knight 410 1
190 Frank Brickowski 404 1
191 Joe Kleine 397 1
192 David Thirdkill 385 1
193 Milt Wagner 380 1
194 Michael Doleac 371 1
195 Darrell Walker 367 1
196 Micheal Williams 358 1
197 D.J. Mbenga 355 1
198 Tim Breaux 340 1
The format in the second version just below is the same: rank/player/total minutes played during those Championship seasons/number of rings. The sorting order is number of minutes. What is different in the second version is that only players and seasons where the player played more than 1,200 minutes are counted.
========== PLAYERS RANKED BY CHAMPIONSHIP MINUTES PLAYED SINCE 1980 ==========
-Strict version: Includes all players in all Championship seasons who played 1,200 minutes or more
-Includes years 1980-2010
Rank / Player / Minutes / Rings
1 Michael Jordan 18,580 6
2 Scottie Pippen 16,873 6
3 Kobe Bryant 14,165 5
4 Magic Johnson 14,108 5
5 Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 13,199 5
6 Dennis Rodman 11,476 5
7 Robert Horry 11,252 6
8 Horace Grant 10,635 4
9 Michael Cooper 10,405 5
10 Shaquille O'Neal 10,315 4
11 Tim Duncan 10,072 4
12 Larry Bird 9,380 3
13 Derek Fisher 8,445 4
14 James Worthy 8,170 3
15 Byron Scott 8,082 3
16 Tony Parker 8,008 3
17 Ron Harper 7,952 4
18 Robert Parish 7,732 3
19 Bruce Bowen 7,657 3
20 A.C. Green 6,805 3
21 Kevin McHale 6,619 3
22 Norm Nixon 6,250 2
23 Hakeem Olajuwon 6,130 2
24 B.J. Armstrong 6,098 3
25 Rick Fox 6,053 3
26 Jamaal Wilkes 6,017 2
27 Toni Kukoc 5,948 3
28 Isiah Thomas 5,917 2
29 Manu Ginobili 5,684 3
30 Pau Gasol 5,402 2
31 Dennis Johnson 5,397 2
32 Bill Laimbeer 5,315 2
33 Cedric Maxwell 5,232 2
34 Bill Cartwright 4,997 3
35 Joe Dumars 4,986 2
36 Lamar Odom 4,901 2
37 Luc Longley 4,816 3
38 Mario Elie 4,793 3
39 Vernon Maxwell 4,609 2
40 Kenny Smith 4,239 2
41 Vinnie Johnson 4,045 2
42 John Paxson 3,917 2
43 Steve Kerr 3,780 2
44 James Posey 3,735 2
45 Gerald Henderson 3,696 2
46 James Edwards 3,537 2
47 Andrew Bynum 3,423 2
48 Brent Barry 3,373 2
49 John Salley 3,372 2
50 David Robinson 3,230 2
51 Kurt Rambis 3,131 2
52 Brian Shaw 3,082 2
53 Ben Wallace 3,050 1
54 Moses Malone 2,922 1
55 Otis Thorpe 2,909 1
56 Dwyane Wade 2,892 1
57 Paul Pierce 2,874 1
58 Tiny Archibald 2,820 1
59 Richard Hamilton 2,772 1
60 Chauncey Billups 2,758 1
61 Chris Ford 2,723 1
62 Tayshaun Prince 2,701 1
63 Ray Allen 2,624 1
64 Carl Herrera 2,623 2
65 Ron Artest 2,605 1
66 Glen Rice 2,530 1
67 Udonis Haslem 2,491 1
68 Andrew Toney 2,474 1
69 Maurice Cheeks 2,465 1
70 Julius Erving 2,421 1
71 Danny Ainge 2,407 1
72 Jim Chones 2,394 1
73 Kevin Garnett 2,328 1
74 Rajon Rondo 2,306 1
75 Gary Payton 2,305 1
76 Stephen Jackson 2,254 1
77 Antoine Walker 2,199 1
78 Mychal Thompson 2,007 1
79 Mark Aguirre 2,005 1
80 Trevor Ariza 1,998 1
81 Malik Rose 1,933 1
82 Kendrick Perkins 1,912 1
83 Sam Cassell 1,882 1
84 Jason Williams 1,874 1
85 Michael Finley 1,823 1
86 Rick Mahorn 1,795 1
87 Rasho Nesterovic 1,785 1
88 Devean George 1,759 1
89 Clint Richardson 1,755 1
90 Bobby Jones 1,749 1
91 Shannon Brown 1,700 1
92 Avery Johnson 1,672 1
93 Samaki Walker 1,655 1
94 Lindsey Hunter 1,616 1
95 Marc Iavaroni 1,612 1
96 Jerry Sichting 1,596 1
97 Mehmet Okur 1,580 1
98 Corliss Williamson 1,574 1
99 Rick Robey 1,569 1
100 Bill Walton 1,546 1
101 Spencer Haywood 1,544 1
102 Sean Elliott 1,509 1
103 Eddie House 1,480 1
104 Jordan Farmar 1,474 1
105 Jason Caffey 1,405 1
106 Scott Wedman 1,402 1
107 Tony Allen 1,373 1
108 Scott Williams 1,369 1
109 Fabricio Oberto 1,365 1
110 Pete Chilcutt 1,347 1
111 Adrian Dantley 1,341 1
112 Francisco Elson 1,332 1
113 Alonzo Mourning 1,302 1
114 Clyde Drexler 1,300 1
115 Sasha Vujacic 1,293 1
116 Larry Spriggs 1,292 1
117 Stacey King 1,268 1
118 Franklin Edwards 1,266 1
119 Bob McAdoo 1,254 1
120 Quinn Buckner 1,249 1
121 Devin Brown 1,238 1
122 Scott Brooks 1,225 1
123 Isaiah Rider 1,206 1
Quest for the Ring (QFTR) has provided the basketball world with the missing information and then some. Here for the second year we have the complete and correct listings for winners of the QFTR in multiple formats. Each year, scheduled for August, the following Reports are in this historical series:
1. Players and Teams Who Won the Quest for the Ring 1980-1994
2. Players and Teams Who Won the Quest for the Ring 1995-2010
3. Alphabetic Logs of all Players Who Have Won the Quest for the Ring 1980-2010
4. Players Ranked by Number of Championships and Rings Won Since 1980
5. Players Ranked by Minutes Played in Championship Years Since 1980
6. Most Recognized High Impact Players 1980-2010
7. Cities and Franchises That Won the Quest for the Ring 1950-2010
In 2010 these will be posted one each day beginning with #1 on August 21 and finishing with #7 on August 27.
After these look for the new and improved Real Coach Ratings and the second annual Report on player salaries, team payrolls, and team cap space.
Championships are by themselves crucial history, but they are also very important for the present, because players who have already won rings are, all other things equal, more valuable than players who have never won a ring. You might as well add about .050 to each such player's Real Player Rating. So a .700 becomes a.750, an .870 becomes a .920, and so forth.
PLAYERS RANKED BY CHAMPIONSHIP MINUTES PLAYED SINCE 1980
There are two versions. The first listing is called the inclusive version. In this one all players who won who played 300 minutes or more during any and all Championship seasons are included. So the first listing includes all players except ones who played very, very little. Players who played fewer than 300 minutes are not listed in either version.
The second listing is called the strict version. In this one all players who played 1,200 minutes or more during any and all Championship seasons are included. The second listing includes only players who were starters or heavy minutes non-starters for much of the season.
Even our listings are technically incomplete, because they cover only the modern era, the years from 1979-80 to the present. We simply have very little interest in years prior to 1980. For one thing, there was no 3-point shot prior to 1980, which to QFTR is an indispensible part of basketball. In fact, if the 3-point shot was removed from the game, we would chances are shut down this Site.
Each entry consists of (1) The rank (2) The player (3) The total minutes the player was on the court during all seasons when he and his team won the Championship and (4) The number of rings. In this report the rankings are by total minutes.
QFTR's basketball history project, which has now grown to seven Reports scheduled for August each year, was originally motivated by the realization that no one anywhere has in one spot a complete listing of all players who have won rings and how many they won.
Just posted yesterday was the straight up ranking of players by number of rings won, was what originally motivated QFTR's history of basketball project. In this related but separate Report this information is shown with number of minutes for the rankings.
Minutes played are a pretty good approximation of how good the player was. So therefore when you rank by number of minutes, you are getting a relatively rough but halfway decent ranking according to how good the players were while they were winning their Championships. Many will agree that the listing by minutes rather than the straight up number of rings is the better "ultimate ranking" of pro basketball Champions.
Real Player Ratings produced by QFTR in very recent years are obviously better than number of minutes. In an ideal world, we would be able to calculate Real Player Ratings for all the Championship teams and rank by them rather than by minutes. In the real world, we don't right now have the resources to do this, mainly because the data needed to calculate hidden defending is not available for years prior to 2005-06.
Incidentally, we will in the not too distant future report out the Ratings for the 2006, 2007, and 2008 Championship teams. The Ratings for the 2008 Celtics were reported but in the relatively crude version with no hidden defending adjustments, so they need to be redone.
Getting back to the task at hand, we have to use minutes in these historical Reports. Always remember that, as the User Guide to the Real Player Rating system explains, when you compare two players, the player with more minutes is not necessarily the better player. But that is often true. The bigger the gap in minutes, the more likely it is that the player with more minutes was the better player.
The format in the first version just below is rank/player/number of rings/total minutes played during those Championship seasons. The sorting order is number of minutes.
========== PLAYERS RANKED BY CHAMPIONSHIP MINUTES PLAYED SINCE 1980 ==========
-Inclusive version: Includes all players in all Championship seasons who played 300 minutes or more
-Includes years 1980-2010
Rank / Player / Minutes / Rings
1 Michael Jordan 18,580 6
2 Scottie Pippen 16,873 6
3 Kobe Bryant 14,165 5
4 Magic Johnson 14,108 5
5 Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 13,199 5
6 Robert Horry 12,376 7
7 Dennis Rodman 11,476 5
8 Horace Grant 10,635 4
9 Michael Cooper 10,405 5
10 Shaquille O'Neal 10,315 4
11 Tim Duncan 10,072 4
12 Larry Bird 9,380 3
13 Derek Fisher 9,154 5
14 Ron Harper 9,091 5
15 James Worthy 8,170 3
16 Robert Parish 8,138 4
17 Byron Scott 8,082 3
18 Tony Parker 8,008 3
19 Bruce Bowen 7,657 3
20 A.C. Green 6,805 3
21 Jamaal Wilkes 6,778 3
22 Kevin McHale 6,619 3
23 Steve Kerr 6,585 5
24 Norm Nixon 6,250 2
25 Hakeem Olajuwon 6,130 2
26 B.J. Armstrong 6,098 3
27 Rick Fox 6,053 3
28 Toni Kukoc 5,948 3
29 Isiah Thomas 5,917 2
30 Manu Ginobili 5,684 3
31 Pau Gasol 5,402 2
32 Dennis Johnson 5,397 2
33 Bill Laimbeer 5,315 2
34 Cedric Maxwell 5,232 2
35 Kurt Rambis 5,107 4
36 Bill Cartwright 4,997 3
37 Joe Dumars 4,986 2
38 John Paxson 4,947 3
39 Lamar Odom 4,901 2
40 Luc Longley 4,816 3
41 Mario Elie 4,793 3
42 Vernon Maxwell 4,609 2
43 Kenny Smith 4,239 2
44 Otis Thorpe 4,097 2
45 Vinnie Johnson 4,045 2
46 Gerald Henderson 4,031 3
47 James Posey 3,735 2
48 Brian Shaw 3,713 3
49 John Salley 3,675 3
50 Danny Ainge 3,561 2
51 James Edwards 3,537 2
52 Stacey King 3,525 3
53 Andrew Bynum 3,423 2
54 Will Perdue 3,422 4
55 Malik Rose 3,403 3
56 Brent Barry 3,373 2
57 David Robinson 3,230 2
58 Mark Aguirre 3,073 2
59 Ben Wallace 3,050 1
60 Sam Cassell 3,004 2
61 Moses Malone 2,922 1
62 Dwyane Wade 2,892 1
63 Randy Brown 2,875 3
64 Paul Pierce 2,874 1
65 Tiny Archibald 2,820 1
66 Richard Hamilton 2,772 1
67 Chauncey Billups 2,758 1
68 Chris Ford 2,723 1
69 Tayshaun Prince 2,701 1
70 Devean George 2,697 3
71 Mychal Thompson 2,687 2
72 Jordan Farmar 2,666 2
73 Jason Caffey 2,660 3
74 Ray Allen 2,624 1
75 Carl Herrera 2,623 2
76 Ron Artest 2,605 1
77 Glen Rice 2,530 1
78 Udonis Haslem 2,491 1
79 Andrew Toney 2,474 1
80 Maurice Cheeks 2,465 1
81 Julius Erving 2,421 1
82 Scott Williams 2,396 3
83 Jim Chones 2,394 1
84 Kevin Garnett 2,328 1
85 Scott Wedman 2,318 2
86 Bill Wennington 2,315 3
87 Rajon Rondo 2,306 1
88 Gary Payton 2,305 1
89 Lindsey Hunter 2,277 2
90 Stephen Jackson 2,254 1
91 Antoine Walker 2,199 1
92 Beno Udrih 2,097 2
93 Jud Buechler 2,051 3
94 Cliff Levingston 2,033 2
95 Bob McAdoo 2,000 2
96 Trevor Ariza 1,998 1
97 Kendrick Perkins 1,912 1
98 Jason Williams 1,874 1
99 Sasha Vujacic 1,868 2
100 Michael Finley 1,823 1
101 Rick Mahorn 1,795 1
102 Rasho Nesterovic 1,785 1
103 Clint Richardson 1,755 1
104 Bobby Jones 1,749 1
105 Shannon Brown 1,700 1
106 Avery Johnson 1,672 1
107 Samaki Walker 1,655 1
108 Marc Iavaroni 1,612 1
109 Jerry Sichting 1,596 1
110 Mehmet Okur 1,580 1
111 Corliss Williamson 1,574 1
112 Rick Robey 1,569 1
113 Bill Walton 1,546 1
114 Spencer Haywood 1,544 1
115 Mitch Kupchak 1,537 2
116 Mike McGee 1,522 2
117 Sean Elliott 1,509 1
118 Mark Landsberger 1,508 2
119 Eddie House 1,480 1
120 Craig Hodges 1,398 2
121 Tony Allen 1,373 1
122 Fabricio Oberto 1,365 1
123 Pete Chilcutt 1,347 1
124 Adrian Dantley 1,341 1
125 Francisco Elson 1,332 1
126 Alonzo Mourning 1,302 1
127 Clyde Drexler 1,300 1
128 Larry Spriggs 1,292 1
129 Mark Madsen 1,291 2
130 Josh Powell 1,284 2
131 Franklin Edwards 1,266 1
132 Quinn Buckner 1,249 1
133 M.L. Carr 1,240 2
134 Wes Matthews 1,238 2
135 Devin Brown 1,238 1
136 Scott Brooks 1,225 1
137 Isaiah Rider 1,206 1
138 Luke Walton 1,166 1
139 Scott Burrell 1,096 1
140 Dickey Simpkins 1,080 2
141 Steve Smith 1,032 1
142 Rodney McCray 1,019 1
143 Earl Cureton 987 1
144 Jim Brewer 966 1
145 Glen Davis 940 1
146 Trent Tucker 909 1
147 Elden Campbell 892 1
148 Jaren Jackson 861 1
149 Mike Penberthy 851 1
150 Kevin Willis 840 1
151 Chucky Brown 814 1
152 Leon Powe 809 1
153 Vladimir Radmanovic 771 1
154 Bob Hansen 769 1
155 Billy Thompson 762 1
156 Jacque Vaughn 760 1
157 Rick Carlisle 760 1
158 Chucky Atkins 751 1
159 Stanislav Medvedenko 729 1
160 Dennis Hopson 728 1
161 Matt Bullard 725 1
162 Mitch Richmond 709 1
163 Bob Sura 707 1
164 Russ Schoene 702 1
165 Jerome Kersey 699 1
166 Tony Massenburg 699 1
167 Clemon Johnson 698 1
168 Rasheed Wallace 673 1
169 Jason Kapono 665 1
170 Matt Bonner 654 1
171 Shandon Anderson 638 1
172 Antonio Daniels 614 1
173 Eddie Jordan 608 1
174 Danny Ferry 601 1
175 Don Ford 580 1
176 Reggie Johnson 549 1
177 Brian Scalabrine 512 1
178 Mike James 512 1
179 Darvin Ham 484 1
180 Speedy Claxton 471 1
181 Tyronn Lue 468 1
182 Derek Anderson 465 1
183 Greg Kite 464 1
184 Greg Foster 451 1
185 Sam Vincent 432 1
186 Mike Smrek 421 1
187 Nazr Mohammed 414 1
188 Wayne Simien 414 1
189 Travis Knight 410 1
190 Frank Brickowski 404 1
191 Joe Kleine 397 1
192 David Thirdkill 385 1
193 Milt Wagner 380 1
194 Michael Doleac 371 1
195 Darrell Walker 367 1
196 Micheal Williams 358 1
197 D.J. Mbenga 355 1
198 Tim Breaux 340 1
The format in the second version just below is the same: rank/player/total minutes played during those Championship seasons/number of rings. The sorting order is number of minutes. What is different in the second version is that only players and seasons where the player played more than 1,200 minutes are counted.
========== PLAYERS RANKED BY CHAMPIONSHIP MINUTES PLAYED SINCE 1980 ==========
-Strict version: Includes all players in all Championship seasons who played 1,200 minutes or more
-Includes years 1980-2010
Rank / Player / Minutes / Rings
1 Michael Jordan 18,580 6
2 Scottie Pippen 16,873 6
3 Kobe Bryant 14,165 5
4 Magic Johnson 14,108 5
5 Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 13,199 5
6 Dennis Rodman 11,476 5
7 Robert Horry 11,252 6
8 Horace Grant 10,635 4
9 Michael Cooper 10,405 5
10 Shaquille O'Neal 10,315 4
11 Tim Duncan 10,072 4
12 Larry Bird 9,380 3
13 Derek Fisher 8,445 4
14 James Worthy 8,170 3
15 Byron Scott 8,082 3
16 Tony Parker 8,008 3
17 Ron Harper 7,952 4
18 Robert Parish 7,732 3
19 Bruce Bowen 7,657 3
20 A.C. Green 6,805 3
21 Kevin McHale 6,619 3
22 Norm Nixon 6,250 2
23 Hakeem Olajuwon 6,130 2
24 B.J. Armstrong 6,098 3
25 Rick Fox 6,053 3
26 Jamaal Wilkes 6,017 2
27 Toni Kukoc 5,948 3
28 Isiah Thomas 5,917 2
29 Manu Ginobili 5,684 3
30 Pau Gasol 5,402 2
31 Dennis Johnson 5,397 2
32 Bill Laimbeer 5,315 2
33 Cedric Maxwell 5,232 2
34 Bill Cartwright 4,997 3
35 Joe Dumars 4,986 2
36 Lamar Odom 4,901 2
37 Luc Longley 4,816 3
38 Mario Elie 4,793 3
39 Vernon Maxwell 4,609 2
40 Kenny Smith 4,239 2
41 Vinnie Johnson 4,045 2
42 John Paxson 3,917 2
43 Steve Kerr 3,780 2
44 James Posey 3,735 2
45 Gerald Henderson 3,696 2
46 James Edwards 3,537 2
47 Andrew Bynum 3,423 2
48 Brent Barry 3,373 2
49 John Salley 3,372 2
50 David Robinson 3,230 2
51 Kurt Rambis 3,131 2
52 Brian Shaw 3,082 2
53 Ben Wallace 3,050 1
54 Moses Malone 2,922 1
55 Otis Thorpe 2,909 1
56 Dwyane Wade 2,892 1
57 Paul Pierce 2,874 1
58 Tiny Archibald 2,820 1
59 Richard Hamilton 2,772 1
60 Chauncey Billups 2,758 1
61 Chris Ford 2,723 1
62 Tayshaun Prince 2,701 1
63 Ray Allen 2,624 1
64 Carl Herrera 2,623 2
65 Ron Artest 2,605 1
66 Glen Rice 2,530 1
67 Udonis Haslem 2,491 1
68 Andrew Toney 2,474 1
69 Maurice Cheeks 2,465 1
70 Julius Erving 2,421 1
71 Danny Ainge 2,407 1
72 Jim Chones 2,394 1
73 Kevin Garnett 2,328 1
74 Rajon Rondo 2,306 1
75 Gary Payton 2,305 1
76 Stephen Jackson 2,254 1
77 Antoine Walker 2,199 1
78 Mychal Thompson 2,007 1
79 Mark Aguirre 2,005 1
80 Trevor Ariza 1,998 1
81 Malik Rose 1,933 1
82 Kendrick Perkins 1,912 1
83 Sam Cassell 1,882 1
84 Jason Williams 1,874 1
85 Michael Finley 1,823 1
86 Rick Mahorn 1,795 1
87 Rasho Nesterovic 1,785 1
88 Devean George 1,759 1
89 Clint Richardson 1,755 1
90 Bobby Jones 1,749 1
91 Shannon Brown 1,700 1
92 Avery Johnson 1,672 1
93 Samaki Walker 1,655 1
94 Lindsey Hunter 1,616 1
95 Marc Iavaroni 1,612 1
96 Jerry Sichting 1,596 1
97 Mehmet Okur 1,580 1
98 Corliss Williamson 1,574 1
99 Rick Robey 1,569 1
100 Bill Walton 1,546 1
101 Spencer Haywood 1,544 1
102 Sean Elliott 1,509 1
103 Eddie House 1,480 1
104 Jordan Farmar 1,474 1
105 Jason Caffey 1,405 1
106 Scott Wedman 1,402 1
107 Tony Allen 1,373 1
108 Scott Williams 1,369 1
109 Fabricio Oberto 1,365 1
110 Pete Chilcutt 1,347 1
111 Adrian Dantley 1,341 1
112 Francisco Elson 1,332 1
113 Alonzo Mourning 1,302 1
114 Clyde Drexler 1,300 1
115 Sasha Vujacic 1,293 1
116 Larry Spriggs 1,292 1
117 Stacey King 1,268 1
118 Franklin Edwards 1,266 1
119 Bob McAdoo 1,254 1
120 Quinn Buckner 1,249 1
121 Devin Brown 1,238 1
122 Scott Brooks 1,225 1
123 Isaiah Rider 1,206 1
Tuesday, August 24, 2010
Players Ranked by Number of Rings (Championships) Won Since 1980
Last year I discovered that nobody cares about how many rings pro basketball players have. Well, not exactly, but I discovered that no one cares enough to keep track and post the numbers on the Internet. I guess people don’t really respect NBA Champions the way they think they do. Even on monster statistical sites there is no page to go to listing NBA player champions year by year, or the number of rings won by player. Sure, you find short and usually incomplete lists of players who have won three or more rings drifting around, but forget about a complete list unless you get it here.
Quest for the Ring (QFTR) has provided the basketball world with the missing information and then some. Here for the second year we have the complete and correct listings for winners of the QFTR in multiple formats. Each year, scheduled for August, the following Reports are in this historical series:
1. Players and Teams Who Won the Quest for the Ring 1980-1994
2. Players and Teams Who Won the Quest for the Ring 1995-2010
3. Alphabetic Logs of all Players Who Have Won the Quest for the Ring 1980-2010
4. Players Ranked by Number of Championships and Rings Won Since 1980
5. Players Ranked by Minutes Played in Championship Years Since 1980
6. Most Recognized High Impact Players 1980-2010
7. Cities and Franchises That Won the Quest for the Ring 1950-2010
In 2010 these will be posted one each day beginning with #1 on August 21 and finishing with #7 on August 27.
After these look for the new and improved Real Coach Ratings and the second annual Report on player salaries, team payrolls, and team cap space.
Championships are by themselves crucial history, but they are also very important for the present, because players who have already won rings are, all other things equal, more valuable than players who have never won a ring. You might as well add about .050 to each such player's Real Player Rating. So a .700 becomes a.750, an .870 becomes a .920, and so forth.
PLAYERS RANKED BY NUMBER OF RINGS (CHAMPIONSHIPS) WON SINCE 1980
There are two versions. The first listing is called the inclusive version. In this one all players who won who played 300 minutes or more during the season are included. Players who played fewer than 300 minutes are not listed in either version.
The second listing is called the strict version. In this one all players who won who played 1,200 minutes or more during the season are included. The first listing includes all players except ones who played very, very little. The second listing includes only players who were starters or heavy minutes non-starters for much of the season.
Even our listings are technically incomplete, because they cover only the modern era, the years from 1979-80 to the present. We simply have very little interest in years prior to 1980. For one thing, there was no 3-point shot prior to 1980, which to QFTR is an indispensible part of basketball. In fact, if the 3-point shot was removed from the game, we would chances are shut down this Site.
Each entry consists of (1) The rank (2) The player (3) The number of rings and (4) The total minutes the player was on the court during all seasons when he and his team won the Championship. In this report the ranking is by number of rings.
QFTR's basketball history project, which has now grown to seven Reports scheduled for August each year, was originally motivated by the realization that no one anywhere has in one spot a complete listing of all players who have won rings and how many they won.
This particular Report, the straight up ranking of players by number of rings won, was the one that originally motivated QFTR's history of basketball project. In a separate Report (posted tomorrow) this information is shown with number of minutes for the ranking. Minutes played are a pretty good approximation of how good the player was. So therefore when you rank by number of minutes, you are getting a relatively rough but halfway decent ranking according to how good the players were while they were winning their Championships. Many will agree that the listing by minutes rather than the straight up number of rings is the better "ultimate ranking" of pro basketball Champions.
Real Player Ratings produced by QFTR in very recent years are obviously better than number of minutes. In an ideal world, we would be able to calculate Real Player Ratings for all the Championship teams and rank by them rather than by minutes. In the real world, we don't right now have the resources to do this, mainly because the data needed to calculate hidden defending is not available for years prior to 2005-06.
Incidentally, we will in the not too distant future report out the Ratings for the 2006, 2007, and 2008 Championship teams. The Ratings for the 2008 Celtics were reported but in the relatively crude version with no hidden defending adjustments, so they need to be redone.
Getting back to the task at hand, we have to use minutes in these historical Reports. Always remember that, as the User Guide to the Real Player Rating system explains, when you compare two players, the player with more minutes is not necessarily the better player. But that is often true. The bigger the gap in minutes, the more likely it is that the player with more minutes was the better player.
The format in the first version just below is rank/player/number of rings/total minutes played during those Championship seasons. The sorting order is number of rings. But among players with the same number of rings, they are ranked according to number of minutes.
========== PLAYERS RANKED BY NUMBER OF RINGS (CHAMPIONSHIPS) WON SINCE 1980 ==========
-Inclusive version: Includes all players in all Championship seasons who played 300 minutes or more
-Includes years 1980-2010
Rank / Player / Rings / Minutes
1 Robert Horry 7 12,376
2 Michael Jordan 6 18,580
3 Scottie Pippen 6 16,873
4 Kobe Bryant 5 14,165
5 Magic Johnson 5 14,108
6 Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 5 13,199
7 Dennis Rodman 5 11,476
8 Michael Cooper 5 10,405
9 Derek Fisher 5 9,154
10 Ron Harper 5 9,091
11 Steve Kerr 5 6,585
12 Horace Grant 4 10,635
13 Shaquille O'Neal 4 10,315
14 Tim Duncan 4 10,072
15 Robert Parish 4 8,138
16 Kurt Rambis 4 5,107
17 Will Perdue 4 3,422
18 Larry Bird 3 9,380
19 James Worthy 3 8,170
20 Byron Scott 3 8,082
21 Tony Parker 3 8,008
22 Bruce Bowen 3 7,657
23 A.C. Green 3 6,805
24 Jamaal Wilkes 3 6,778
25 Kevin McHale 3 6,619
26 B.J. Armstrong 3 6,098
27 Rick Fox 3 6,053
28 Toni Kukoc 3 5,948
29 Manu Ginobili 3 5,684
30 Bill Cartwright 3 4,997
31 John Paxson 3 4,947
32 Luc Longley 3 4,816
33 Mario Elie 3 4,793
34 Gerald Henderson 3 4,031
35 Brian Shaw 3 3,713
36 John Salley 3 3,675
37 Stacey King 3 3,525
38 Malik Rose 3 3,403
39 Randy Brown 3 2,875
40 Devean George 3 2,697
41 Jason Caffey 3 2,660
42 Scott Williams 3 2,396
43 Bill Wennington 3 2,315
44 Jud Buechler 3 2,051
45 Norm Nixon 2 6,250
46 Hakeem Olajuwon 2 6,130
47 Isiah Thomas 2 5,917
48 Pau Gasol 2 5,402
49 Dennis Johnson 2 5,397
50 Bill Laimbeer 2 5,315
51 Cedric Maxwell 2 5,232
52 Joe Dumars 2 4,986
53 Lamar Odom 2 4,901
54 Vernon Maxwell 2 4,609
55 Kenny Smith 2 4,239
56 Otis Thorpe 2 4,097
57 Vinnie Johnson 2 4,045
58 James Posey 2 3,735
59 Danny Ainge 2 3,561
60 James Edwards 2 3,537
61 Andrew Bynum 2 3,423
62 Brent Barry 2 3,373
63 David Robinson 2 3,230
64 Mark Aguirre 2 3,073
65 Sam Cassell 2 3,004
66 Mychal Thompson 2 2,687
67 Jordan Farmar 2 2,666
68 Carl Herrera 2 2,623
69 Scott Wedman 2 2,318
70 Lindsey Hunter 2 2,277
71 Beno Udrih 2 2,097
72 Cliff Levingston 2 2,033
73 Bob McAdoo 2 2,000
74 Sasha Vujacic 2 1,868
75 Mitch Kupchak 2 1,537
76 Mike McGee 2 1,522
77 Mark Landsberger 2 1,508
78 Craig Hodges 2 1,398
79 Mark Madsen 2 1,291
80 Josh Powell 2 1,284
81 M.L. Carr 2 1,240
82 Wes Matthews 2 1,238
83 Dickey Simpkins 2 1,080
84 Ben Wallace 1 3,050
85 Moses Malone 1 2,922
86 Dwyane Wade 1 2,892
87 Paul Pierce 1 2,874
88 Tiny Archibald 1 2,820
89 Richard Hamilton 1 2,772
90 Chauncey Billups 1 2,758
91 Chris Ford 1 2,723
92 Tayshaun Prince 1 2,701
93 Ray Allen 1 2,624
94 Ron Artest 1 2,605
95 Glen Rice 1 2,530
96 Udonis Haslem 1 2,491
97 Andrew Toney 1 2,474
98 Maurice Cheeks 1 2,465
99 Julius Erving 1 2,421
100 Jim Chones 1 2,394
101 Kevin Garnett 1 2,328
102 Rajon Rondo 1 2,306
103 Gary Payton 1 2,305
104 Stephen Jackson 1 2,254
105 Antoine Walker 1 2,199
106 Trevor Ariza 1 1,998
107 Kendrick Perkins 1 1,912
108 Jason Williams 1 1,874
109 Michael Finley 1 1,823
110 Rick Mahorn 1 1,795
111 Rasho Nesterovic 1 1,785
112 Clint Richardson 1 1,755
113 Bobby Jones 1 1,749
114 Shannon Brown 1 1,700
115 Avery Johnson 1 1,672
116 Samaki Walker 1 1,655
117 Marc Iavaroni 1 1,612
118 Jerry Sichting 1 1,596
119 Mehmet Okur 1 1,580
120 Corliss Williamson 1 1,574
121 Rick Robey 1 1,569
122 Bill Walton 1 1,546
123 Spencer Haywood 1 1,544
124 Sean Elliott 1 1,509
125 Eddie House 1 1,480
126 Tony Allen 1 1,373
127 Fabricio Oberto 1 1,365
128 Pete Chilcutt 1 1,347
129 Adrian Dantley 1 1,341
130 Francisco Elson 1 1,332
131 Alonzo Mourning 1 1,302
132 Clyde Drexler 1 1,300
133 Larry Spriggs 1 1,292
134 Franklin Edwards 1 1,266
135 Quinn Buckner 1 1,249
136 Devin Brown 1 1,238
137 Scott Brooks 1 1,225
138 Isaiah Rider 1 1,206
139 Luke Walton 1 1,166
140 Scott Burrell 1 1,096
141 Steve Smith 1 1,032
142 Rodney McCray 1 1,019
143 Earl Cureton 1 987
144 Jim Brewer 1 966
145 Glen Davis 1 940
146 Trent Tucker 1 909
147 Elden Campbell 1 892
148 Jaren Jackson 1 861
149 Mike Penberthy 1 851
150 Kevin Willis 1 840
151 Chucky Brown 1 814
152 Leon Powe 1 809
153 Vladimir Radmanovic 1 771
154 Bob Hansen 1 769
155 Billy Thompson 1 762
156 Jacque Vaughn 1 760
157 Rick Carlisle 1 760
158 Chucky Atkins 1 751
159 Stanislav Medvedenko 1 729
160 Dennis Hopson 1 728
161 Matt Bullard 1 725
162 Mitch Richmond 1 709
163 Bob Sura 1 707
164 Russ Schoene 1 702
165 Jerome Kersey 1 699
166 Tony Massenburg 1 699
167 Clemon Johnson 1 698
168 Rasheed Wallace 1 673
169 Jason Kapono 1 665
170 Matt Bonner 1 654
171 Shandon Anderson 1 638
172 Antonio Daniels 1 614
173 Eddie Jordan 1 608
174 Danny Ferry 1 601
175 Don Ford 1 580
176 Reggie Johnson 1 549
177 Brian Scalabrine 1 512
178 Mike James 1 512
179 Darvin Ham 1 484
180 Speedy Claxton 1 471
181 Tyronn Lue 1 468
182 Derek Anderson 1 465
183 Greg Kite 1 464
184 Greg Foster 1 451
185 Sam Vincent 1 432
186 Mike Smrek 1 421
187 Nazr Mohammed 1 414
188 Wayne Simien 1 414
189 Travis Knight 1 410
190 Frank Brickowski 1 404
191 Joe Kleine 1 397
192 David Thirdkill 1 385
193 Milt Wagner 1 380
194 Michael Doleac 1 371
195 Darrell Walker 1 367
196 Micheal Williams 1 358
197 D.J. Mbenga 1 355
198 Tim Breaux 1 340
The format in the second version just below is the same: rank/player/total minutes played during those Championship seasons/number of rings. The sorting order remains number of rings. But among players with the same number of rings, they are ranked according to number of minutes. What is different in the second version is that only players and seasons where the player played more than 1,200 minutes are counted.
========== PLAYERS RANKED BY NUMBER OF RINGS (CHAMPIONSHIPS) WON SINCE 1980 ==========
-Strict version: Includes all players in all Championship seasons who played 1,200 minutes or more
-Includes years 1980-2010
Rank / Player / Rings / Minutes
1 Michael Jordan 6 18,580
2 Scottie Pippen 6 16,873
3 Robert Horry 6 11,252
4 Kobe Bryant 5 14,165
5 Magic Johnson 5 14,108
6 Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 5 13,199
7 Dennis Rodman 5 11,476
8 Michael Cooper 5 10,405
9 Horace Grant 4 10,635
10 Shaquille O'Neal 4 10,315
11 Tim Duncan 4 10,072
12 Derek Fisher 4 8,445
13 Ron Harper 4 7,952
14 Larry Bird 3 9,380
15 James Worthy 3 8,170
16 Byron Scott 3 8,082
17 Tony Parker 3 8,008
18 Robert Parish 3 7,732
19 Bruce Bowen 3 7,657
20 A.C. Green 3 6,805
21 Kevin McHale 3 6,619
22 B.J. Armstrong 3 6,098
23 Rick Fox 3 6,053
24 Toni Kukoc 3 5,948
25 Manu Ginobili 3 5,684
26 Bill Cartwright 3 4,997
27 Luc Longley 3 4,816
28 Mario Elie 3 4,793
29 Norm Nixon 2 6,250
30 Hakeem Olajuwon 2 6,130
31 Jamaal Wilkes 2 6,017
32 Isiah Thomas 2 5,917
33 Pau Gasol 2 5,402
34 Dennis Johnson 2 5,397
35 Bill Laimbeer 2 5,315
36 Cedric Maxwell 2 5,232
37 Joe Dumars 2 4,986
38 Lamar Odom 2 4,901
39 Vernon Maxwell 2 4,609
40 Kenny Smith 2 4,239
41 Vinnie Johnson 2 4,045
42 John Paxson 2 3,917
43 Steve Kerr 2 3,780
44 James Posey 2 3,735
45 Gerald Henderson 2 3,696
46 James Edwards 2 3,537
47 Andrew Bynum 2 3,423
48 Brent Barry 2 3,373
49 John Salley 2 3,372
50 David Robinson 2 3,230
51 Kurt Rambis 2 3,131
52 Brian Shaw 2 3,082
53 Carl Herrera 2 2,623
54 Ben Wallace 1 3,050
55 Moses Malone 1 2,922
56 Otis Thorpe 1 2,909
57 Dwyane Wade 1 2,892
58 Paul Pierce 1 2,874
59 Tiny Archibald 1 2,820
60 Richard Hamilton 1 2,772
61 Chauncey Billups 1 2,758
62 Chris Ford 1 2,723
63 Tayshaun Prince 1 2,701
64 Ray Allen 1 2,624
65 Ron Artest 1 2,605
66 Glen Rice 1 2,530
67 Udonis Haslem 1 2,491
68 Andrew Toney 1 2,474
69 Maurice Cheeks 1 2,465
70 Julius Erving 1 2,421
71 Danny Ainge 1 2,407
72 Jim Chones 1 2,394
73 Kevin Garnett 1 2,328
74 Rajon Rondo 1 2,306
75 Gary Payton 1 2,305
76 Stephen Jackson 1 2,254
77 Antoine Walker 1 2,199
78 Mychal Thompson 1 2,007
79 Mark Aguirre 1 2,005
80 Trevor Ariza 1 1,998
81 Malik Rose 1 1,933
82 Kendrick Perkins 1 1,912
83 Sam Cassell 1 1,882
84 Jason Williams 1 1,874
85 Michael Finley 1 1,823
86 Rick Mahorn 1 1,795
87 Rasho Nesterovic 1 1,785
88 Devean George 1 1,759
89 Clint Richardson 1 1,755
90 Bobby Jones 1 1,749
91 Shannon Brown 1 1,700
92 Avery Johnson 1 1,672
93 Samaki Walker 1 1,655
94 Lindsey Hunter 1 1,616
95 Marc Iavaroni 1 1,612
96 Jerry Sichting 1 1,596
97 Mehmet Okur 1 1,580
98 Corliss Williamson 1 1,574
99 Rick Robey 1 1,569
100 Bill Walton 1 1,546
101 Spencer Haywood 1 1,544
102 Sean Elliott 1 1,509
103 Eddie House 1 1,480
104 Jordan Farmar 1 1,474
105 Jason Caffey 1 1,405
106 Scott Wedman 1 1,402
107 Tony Allen 1 1,373
108 Scott Williams 1 1,369
109 Fabricio Oberto 1 1,365
110 Pete Chilcutt 1 1,347
111 Adrian Dantley 1 1,341
112 Francisco Elson 1 1,332
113 Alonzo Mourning 1 1,302
114 Clyde Drexler 1 1,300
115 Sasha Vujacic 1 1,293
116 Larry Spriggs 1 1,292
117 Stacey King 1 1,268
118 Franklin Edwards 1 1,266
119 Bob McAdoo 1 1,254
120 Quinn Buckner 1 1,249
121 Devin Brown 1 1,238
122 Scott Brooks 1 1,225
123 Isaiah Rider 1 1,206
Quest for the Ring (QFTR) has provided the basketball world with the missing information and then some. Here for the second year we have the complete and correct listings for winners of the QFTR in multiple formats. Each year, scheduled for August, the following Reports are in this historical series:
1. Players and Teams Who Won the Quest for the Ring 1980-1994
2. Players and Teams Who Won the Quest for the Ring 1995-2010
3. Alphabetic Logs of all Players Who Have Won the Quest for the Ring 1980-2010
4. Players Ranked by Number of Championships and Rings Won Since 1980
5. Players Ranked by Minutes Played in Championship Years Since 1980
6. Most Recognized High Impact Players 1980-2010
7. Cities and Franchises That Won the Quest for the Ring 1950-2010
In 2010 these will be posted one each day beginning with #1 on August 21 and finishing with #7 on August 27.
After these look for the new and improved Real Coach Ratings and the second annual Report on player salaries, team payrolls, and team cap space.
Championships are by themselves crucial history, but they are also very important for the present, because players who have already won rings are, all other things equal, more valuable than players who have never won a ring. You might as well add about .050 to each such player's Real Player Rating. So a .700 becomes a.750, an .870 becomes a .920, and so forth.
PLAYERS RANKED BY NUMBER OF RINGS (CHAMPIONSHIPS) WON SINCE 1980
There are two versions. The first listing is called the inclusive version. In this one all players who won who played 300 minutes or more during the season are included. Players who played fewer than 300 minutes are not listed in either version.
The second listing is called the strict version. In this one all players who won who played 1,200 minutes or more during the season are included. The first listing includes all players except ones who played very, very little. The second listing includes only players who were starters or heavy minutes non-starters for much of the season.
Even our listings are technically incomplete, because they cover only the modern era, the years from 1979-80 to the present. We simply have very little interest in years prior to 1980. For one thing, there was no 3-point shot prior to 1980, which to QFTR is an indispensible part of basketball. In fact, if the 3-point shot was removed from the game, we would chances are shut down this Site.
Each entry consists of (1) The rank (2) The player (3) The number of rings and (4) The total minutes the player was on the court during all seasons when he and his team won the Championship. In this report the ranking is by number of rings.
QFTR's basketball history project, which has now grown to seven Reports scheduled for August each year, was originally motivated by the realization that no one anywhere has in one spot a complete listing of all players who have won rings and how many they won.
This particular Report, the straight up ranking of players by number of rings won, was the one that originally motivated QFTR's history of basketball project. In a separate Report (posted tomorrow) this information is shown with number of minutes for the ranking. Minutes played are a pretty good approximation of how good the player was. So therefore when you rank by number of minutes, you are getting a relatively rough but halfway decent ranking according to how good the players were while they were winning their Championships. Many will agree that the listing by minutes rather than the straight up number of rings is the better "ultimate ranking" of pro basketball Champions.
Real Player Ratings produced by QFTR in very recent years are obviously better than number of minutes. In an ideal world, we would be able to calculate Real Player Ratings for all the Championship teams and rank by them rather than by minutes. In the real world, we don't right now have the resources to do this, mainly because the data needed to calculate hidden defending is not available for years prior to 2005-06.
Incidentally, we will in the not too distant future report out the Ratings for the 2006, 2007, and 2008 Championship teams. The Ratings for the 2008 Celtics were reported but in the relatively crude version with no hidden defending adjustments, so they need to be redone.
Getting back to the task at hand, we have to use minutes in these historical Reports. Always remember that, as the User Guide to the Real Player Rating system explains, when you compare two players, the player with more minutes is not necessarily the better player. But that is often true. The bigger the gap in minutes, the more likely it is that the player with more minutes was the better player.
The format in the first version just below is rank/player/number of rings/total minutes played during those Championship seasons. The sorting order is number of rings. But among players with the same number of rings, they are ranked according to number of minutes.
========== PLAYERS RANKED BY NUMBER OF RINGS (CHAMPIONSHIPS) WON SINCE 1980 ==========
-Inclusive version: Includes all players in all Championship seasons who played 300 minutes or more
-Includes years 1980-2010
Rank / Player / Rings / Minutes
1 Robert Horry 7 12,376
2 Michael Jordan 6 18,580
3 Scottie Pippen 6 16,873
4 Kobe Bryant 5 14,165
5 Magic Johnson 5 14,108
6 Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 5 13,199
7 Dennis Rodman 5 11,476
8 Michael Cooper 5 10,405
9 Derek Fisher 5 9,154
10 Ron Harper 5 9,091
11 Steve Kerr 5 6,585
12 Horace Grant 4 10,635
13 Shaquille O'Neal 4 10,315
14 Tim Duncan 4 10,072
15 Robert Parish 4 8,138
16 Kurt Rambis 4 5,107
17 Will Perdue 4 3,422
18 Larry Bird 3 9,380
19 James Worthy 3 8,170
20 Byron Scott 3 8,082
21 Tony Parker 3 8,008
22 Bruce Bowen 3 7,657
23 A.C. Green 3 6,805
24 Jamaal Wilkes 3 6,778
25 Kevin McHale 3 6,619
26 B.J. Armstrong 3 6,098
27 Rick Fox 3 6,053
28 Toni Kukoc 3 5,948
29 Manu Ginobili 3 5,684
30 Bill Cartwright 3 4,997
31 John Paxson 3 4,947
32 Luc Longley 3 4,816
33 Mario Elie 3 4,793
34 Gerald Henderson 3 4,031
35 Brian Shaw 3 3,713
36 John Salley 3 3,675
37 Stacey King 3 3,525
38 Malik Rose 3 3,403
39 Randy Brown 3 2,875
40 Devean George 3 2,697
41 Jason Caffey 3 2,660
42 Scott Williams 3 2,396
43 Bill Wennington 3 2,315
44 Jud Buechler 3 2,051
45 Norm Nixon 2 6,250
46 Hakeem Olajuwon 2 6,130
47 Isiah Thomas 2 5,917
48 Pau Gasol 2 5,402
49 Dennis Johnson 2 5,397
50 Bill Laimbeer 2 5,315
51 Cedric Maxwell 2 5,232
52 Joe Dumars 2 4,986
53 Lamar Odom 2 4,901
54 Vernon Maxwell 2 4,609
55 Kenny Smith 2 4,239
56 Otis Thorpe 2 4,097
57 Vinnie Johnson 2 4,045
58 James Posey 2 3,735
59 Danny Ainge 2 3,561
60 James Edwards 2 3,537
61 Andrew Bynum 2 3,423
62 Brent Barry 2 3,373
63 David Robinson 2 3,230
64 Mark Aguirre 2 3,073
65 Sam Cassell 2 3,004
66 Mychal Thompson 2 2,687
67 Jordan Farmar 2 2,666
68 Carl Herrera 2 2,623
69 Scott Wedman 2 2,318
70 Lindsey Hunter 2 2,277
71 Beno Udrih 2 2,097
72 Cliff Levingston 2 2,033
73 Bob McAdoo 2 2,000
74 Sasha Vujacic 2 1,868
75 Mitch Kupchak 2 1,537
76 Mike McGee 2 1,522
77 Mark Landsberger 2 1,508
78 Craig Hodges 2 1,398
79 Mark Madsen 2 1,291
80 Josh Powell 2 1,284
81 M.L. Carr 2 1,240
82 Wes Matthews 2 1,238
83 Dickey Simpkins 2 1,080
84 Ben Wallace 1 3,050
85 Moses Malone 1 2,922
86 Dwyane Wade 1 2,892
87 Paul Pierce 1 2,874
88 Tiny Archibald 1 2,820
89 Richard Hamilton 1 2,772
90 Chauncey Billups 1 2,758
91 Chris Ford 1 2,723
92 Tayshaun Prince 1 2,701
93 Ray Allen 1 2,624
94 Ron Artest 1 2,605
95 Glen Rice 1 2,530
96 Udonis Haslem 1 2,491
97 Andrew Toney 1 2,474
98 Maurice Cheeks 1 2,465
99 Julius Erving 1 2,421
100 Jim Chones 1 2,394
101 Kevin Garnett 1 2,328
102 Rajon Rondo 1 2,306
103 Gary Payton 1 2,305
104 Stephen Jackson 1 2,254
105 Antoine Walker 1 2,199
106 Trevor Ariza 1 1,998
107 Kendrick Perkins 1 1,912
108 Jason Williams 1 1,874
109 Michael Finley 1 1,823
110 Rick Mahorn 1 1,795
111 Rasho Nesterovic 1 1,785
112 Clint Richardson 1 1,755
113 Bobby Jones 1 1,749
114 Shannon Brown 1 1,700
115 Avery Johnson 1 1,672
116 Samaki Walker 1 1,655
117 Marc Iavaroni 1 1,612
118 Jerry Sichting 1 1,596
119 Mehmet Okur 1 1,580
120 Corliss Williamson 1 1,574
121 Rick Robey 1 1,569
122 Bill Walton 1 1,546
123 Spencer Haywood 1 1,544
124 Sean Elliott 1 1,509
125 Eddie House 1 1,480
126 Tony Allen 1 1,373
127 Fabricio Oberto 1 1,365
128 Pete Chilcutt 1 1,347
129 Adrian Dantley 1 1,341
130 Francisco Elson 1 1,332
131 Alonzo Mourning 1 1,302
132 Clyde Drexler 1 1,300
133 Larry Spriggs 1 1,292
134 Franklin Edwards 1 1,266
135 Quinn Buckner 1 1,249
136 Devin Brown 1 1,238
137 Scott Brooks 1 1,225
138 Isaiah Rider 1 1,206
139 Luke Walton 1 1,166
140 Scott Burrell 1 1,096
141 Steve Smith 1 1,032
142 Rodney McCray 1 1,019
143 Earl Cureton 1 987
144 Jim Brewer 1 966
145 Glen Davis 1 940
146 Trent Tucker 1 909
147 Elden Campbell 1 892
148 Jaren Jackson 1 861
149 Mike Penberthy 1 851
150 Kevin Willis 1 840
151 Chucky Brown 1 814
152 Leon Powe 1 809
153 Vladimir Radmanovic 1 771
154 Bob Hansen 1 769
155 Billy Thompson 1 762
156 Jacque Vaughn 1 760
157 Rick Carlisle 1 760
158 Chucky Atkins 1 751
159 Stanislav Medvedenko 1 729
160 Dennis Hopson 1 728
161 Matt Bullard 1 725
162 Mitch Richmond 1 709
163 Bob Sura 1 707
164 Russ Schoene 1 702
165 Jerome Kersey 1 699
166 Tony Massenburg 1 699
167 Clemon Johnson 1 698
168 Rasheed Wallace 1 673
169 Jason Kapono 1 665
170 Matt Bonner 1 654
171 Shandon Anderson 1 638
172 Antonio Daniels 1 614
173 Eddie Jordan 1 608
174 Danny Ferry 1 601
175 Don Ford 1 580
176 Reggie Johnson 1 549
177 Brian Scalabrine 1 512
178 Mike James 1 512
179 Darvin Ham 1 484
180 Speedy Claxton 1 471
181 Tyronn Lue 1 468
182 Derek Anderson 1 465
183 Greg Kite 1 464
184 Greg Foster 1 451
185 Sam Vincent 1 432
186 Mike Smrek 1 421
187 Nazr Mohammed 1 414
188 Wayne Simien 1 414
189 Travis Knight 1 410
190 Frank Brickowski 1 404
191 Joe Kleine 1 397
192 David Thirdkill 1 385
193 Milt Wagner 1 380
194 Michael Doleac 1 371
195 Darrell Walker 1 367
196 Micheal Williams 1 358
197 D.J. Mbenga 1 355
198 Tim Breaux 1 340
The format in the second version just below is the same: rank/player/total minutes played during those Championship seasons/number of rings. The sorting order remains number of rings. But among players with the same number of rings, they are ranked according to number of minutes. What is different in the second version is that only players and seasons where the player played more than 1,200 minutes are counted.
========== PLAYERS RANKED BY NUMBER OF RINGS (CHAMPIONSHIPS) WON SINCE 1980 ==========
-Strict version: Includes all players in all Championship seasons who played 1,200 minutes or more
-Includes years 1980-2010
Rank / Player / Rings / Minutes
1 Michael Jordan 6 18,580
2 Scottie Pippen 6 16,873
3 Robert Horry 6 11,252
4 Kobe Bryant 5 14,165
5 Magic Johnson 5 14,108
6 Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 5 13,199
7 Dennis Rodman 5 11,476
8 Michael Cooper 5 10,405
9 Horace Grant 4 10,635
10 Shaquille O'Neal 4 10,315
11 Tim Duncan 4 10,072
12 Derek Fisher 4 8,445
13 Ron Harper 4 7,952
14 Larry Bird 3 9,380
15 James Worthy 3 8,170
16 Byron Scott 3 8,082
17 Tony Parker 3 8,008
18 Robert Parish 3 7,732
19 Bruce Bowen 3 7,657
20 A.C. Green 3 6,805
21 Kevin McHale 3 6,619
22 B.J. Armstrong 3 6,098
23 Rick Fox 3 6,053
24 Toni Kukoc 3 5,948
25 Manu Ginobili 3 5,684
26 Bill Cartwright 3 4,997
27 Luc Longley 3 4,816
28 Mario Elie 3 4,793
29 Norm Nixon 2 6,250
30 Hakeem Olajuwon 2 6,130
31 Jamaal Wilkes 2 6,017
32 Isiah Thomas 2 5,917
33 Pau Gasol 2 5,402
34 Dennis Johnson 2 5,397
35 Bill Laimbeer 2 5,315
36 Cedric Maxwell 2 5,232
37 Joe Dumars 2 4,986
38 Lamar Odom 2 4,901
39 Vernon Maxwell 2 4,609
40 Kenny Smith 2 4,239
41 Vinnie Johnson 2 4,045
42 John Paxson 2 3,917
43 Steve Kerr 2 3,780
44 James Posey 2 3,735
45 Gerald Henderson 2 3,696
46 James Edwards 2 3,537
47 Andrew Bynum 2 3,423
48 Brent Barry 2 3,373
49 John Salley 2 3,372
50 David Robinson 2 3,230
51 Kurt Rambis 2 3,131
52 Brian Shaw 2 3,082
53 Carl Herrera 2 2,623
54 Ben Wallace 1 3,050
55 Moses Malone 1 2,922
56 Otis Thorpe 1 2,909
57 Dwyane Wade 1 2,892
58 Paul Pierce 1 2,874
59 Tiny Archibald 1 2,820
60 Richard Hamilton 1 2,772
61 Chauncey Billups 1 2,758
62 Chris Ford 1 2,723
63 Tayshaun Prince 1 2,701
64 Ray Allen 1 2,624
65 Ron Artest 1 2,605
66 Glen Rice 1 2,530
67 Udonis Haslem 1 2,491
68 Andrew Toney 1 2,474
69 Maurice Cheeks 1 2,465
70 Julius Erving 1 2,421
71 Danny Ainge 1 2,407
72 Jim Chones 1 2,394
73 Kevin Garnett 1 2,328
74 Rajon Rondo 1 2,306
75 Gary Payton 1 2,305
76 Stephen Jackson 1 2,254
77 Antoine Walker 1 2,199
78 Mychal Thompson 1 2,007
79 Mark Aguirre 1 2,005
80 Trevor Ariza 1 1,998
81 Malik Rose 1 1,933
82 Kendrick Perkins 1 1,912
83 Sam Cassell 1 1,882
84 Jason Williams 1 1,874
85 Michael Finley 1 1,823
86 Rick Mahorn 1 1,795
87 Rasho Nesterovic 1 1,785
88 Devean George 1 1,759
89 Clint Richardson 1 1,755
90 Bobby Jones 1 1,749
91 Shannon Brown 1 1,700
92 Avery Johnson 1 1,672
93 Samaki Walker 1 1,655
94 Lindsey Hunter 1 1,616
95 Marc Iavaroni 1 1,612
96 Jerry Sichting 1 1,596
97 Mehmet Okur 1 1,580
98 Corliss Williamson 1 1,574
99 Rick Robey 1 1,569
100 Bill Walton 1 1,546
101 Spencer Haywood 1 1,544
102 Sean Elliott 1 1,509
103 Eddie House 1 1,480
104 Jordan Farmar 1 1,474
105 Jason Caffey 1 1,405
106 Scott Wedman 1 1,402
107 Tony Allen 1 1,373
108 Scott Williams 1 1,369
109 Fabricio Oberto 1 1,365
110 Pete Chilcutt 1 1,347
111 Adrian Dantley 1 1,341
112 Francisco Elson 1 1,332
113 Alonzo Mourning 1 1,302
114 Clyde Drexler 1 1,300
115 Sasha Vujacic 1 1,293
116 Larry Spriggs 1 1,292
117 Stacey King 1 1,268
118 Franklin Edwards 1 1,266
119 Bob McAdoo 1 1,254
120 Quinn Buckner 1 1,249
121 Devin Brown 1 1,238
122 Scott Brooks 1 1,225
123 Isaiah Rider 1 1,206
Monday, August 23, 2010
Alphabetic Lists of all Players Who Won the Quest for the Ring 1980-2010
Last year I discovered that nobody cares about how many rings pro basketball players have. Well, not exactly, but I discovered that no one cares enough to keep track and post the numbers on the Internet. I guess people don’t really respect NBA Champions the way they think they do. Even on monster statistical sites there is no page to go to listing NBA player champions year by year, or the number of rings won by player. Sure, you find short and usually incomplete lists of players who have won three or more rings drifting around, but forget about a complete list unless you get it here.
Quest for the Ring (QFTR) has provided the basketball world with the missing information and then some. Here for the second year we have the complete and correct listings for winners of the QFTR in multiple formats. Each year, scheduled for August, the following Reports are in this historical series:
1. Players and Teams Who Won the Quest for the Ring 1980-1994
2. Players and Teams Who Won the Quest for the Ring 1995-2010
3. Alphabetic Logs of all Players Who Have Won the Quest for the Ring 1980-2010
4. Players Ranked by Number of Championships and Rings Won Since 1980
5. Players Ranked by Minutes Played in Championship Years Since 1980
6. Most Recognized High Impact Players 1980-2010
7. Cities and Franchises That Won the Quest for the Ring 1950-2010
In 2010 these will be posted one each day beginning with #1 on August 21 and finishing with #7 on August 27.
After these look for the new and improved Real Coach Ratings and the second annual Report on player salaries, team payrolls, and team cap space.
Championships are by themselves crucial history, but they are also very important for the present, because players who have already won rings are, all other things equal, more valuable than players who have never won a ring. You might as well add about .050 to each such player's Real Player Rating. So a .700 becomes a.750, an .870 becomes a .920, and so forth.
ALPHABETIC LISTS OF ALL PLAYERS WHO HAVE WON THE QUEST FOR THE RING
In this Report we are doing two alphabetical lists of all players who won the Quest for the Ring between 1980 and 2010, with an entry for each time each player won. The first listing is called the inclusive version. In this one all players who won who played 300 minutes or more during the season are included. The second listing is called the strict version. In this one all players who won who played 1,200 minutes or more during the season are included. The first listing includes all players except ones who played very little. The second listing includes only players who were starters or heavy minutes non-starters for much of the season.
Each entry consists of (1) The name of the player (2) the player's team (3) the age of the player when he won and (4) the number of minutes he played during the season he won the Quest. You can find the year(s) any player won by checking the “Players and Teams Who Won the Quest for the Ring” Reports.
Minutes played are a pretty good approximation of how good the player was. But remember, as the User Guide to the Real Player Rating system explains, the players with the most minutes are not always actually the best players.
Obviously, this is the Report to use to look up any player by name. Aside from seeing whether a player you have in mind has ever won, you can quickly tell how many rings each player has won simply by observing how many times his name appears. The alphabetical sorting is by first name.
========== ALPHABETIC LIST OF PLAYERS WHO WON THE QUEST FOR THE RING 1980-2010 ==========
-Alphabetical by first names
-Inclusive Version: All players who won a ring in a season when they played at least 300 minutes are included
Player / Team / Age / Minutes
A.C. Green LA L 36 1,929
A.C. Green LA L 24 2,636
A.C. Green LA L 23 2,240
Adrian Dantley DETR 32 1,341
Alonzo Mourning MIAM 35 1,302
Andrew Bynum LA L 22 1,977
Andrew Bynum LA L 21 1,446
Andrew Toney PHIL 25 2,474
Antoine Walker MIAM 29 2,199
Antonio Daniels SN A 23 614
Avery Johnson SN A 33 1,672
B.J. Armstrong CHIC 25 2,492
B.J. Armstrong CHIC 24 1,875
B.J. Armstrong CHIC 23 1,731
Ben Wallace DETR 29 3,050
Beno Udrih SN A 24 948
Beno Udrih SN A 22 1,149
Bill Cartwright CHIC 35 1,253
Bill Cartwright CHIC 34 1,471
Bill Cartwright CHIC 33 2,273
Bill Laimbeer DETR 32 2,675
Bill Laimbeer DETR 31 2,640
Bill Walton BOST 33 1,546
Bill Wennington CHIC 34 467
Bill Wennington CHIC 33 783
Bill Wennington CHIC 32 1,065
Billy Thompson LA L 23 762
Bob Hansen CHIC 31 769
Bob McAdoo LA L 33 1,254
Bob McAdoo LA L 30 746
Bob Sura DETR 30 707
Bobby Jones PHIL 31 1,749
Brent Barry SN A 35 1,631
Brent Barry SN A 33 1,742
Brian Scalabrine BOST 29 512
Brian Shaw LA L 35 631
Brian Shaw LA L 34 1,833
Brian Shaw LA L 33 1,249
Bruce Bowen SN A 35 2,464
Bruce Bowen SN A 33 2,627
Bruce Bowen SN A 31 2,566
Byron Scott LA L 26 3,048
Byron Scott LA L 25 2,729
Byron Scott LA L 23 2,305
Carl Herrera HOUS 28 1,331
Carl Herrera HOUS 27 1,292
Cedric Maxwell BOST 28 2,502
Cedric Maxwell BOST 25 2,730
Chauncey Billups DETR 27 2,758
Chris Ford BOST 32 2,723
Chucky Atkins DETR 29 751
Chucky Brown HOUS 26 814
Clemon Johnson PHIL 26 698
Cliff Levingston CHIC 31 1,020
Cliff Levingston CHIC 30 1,013
Clint Richardson PHIL 26 1,755
Clyde Drexler HOUS 32 1,300
Corliss Williamson DETR 30 1,574
Craig Hodges CHIC 31 555
Craig Hodges CHIC 30 843
D.J. Mbenga LA L 19 355
Danny Ainge BOST 26 2,407
Danny Ainge BOST 24 1,154
Danny Ferry SN A 36 601
Darrell Walker CHIC 31 367
Darvin Ham DETR 30 484
David Robinson SN A 37 1,676
David Robinson SN A 33 1,554
David Thirdkill BOST 25 385
Dennis Hopson CHIC 25 728
Dennis Johnson BOST 31 2,732
Dennis Johnson BOST 29 2,665
Dennis Rodman CHIC 36 2,856
Dennis Rodman CHIC 35 1,947
Dennis Rodman CHIC 34 2,088
Dennis Rodman DETR 28 2,377
Dennis Rodman DETR 27 2,208
Derek Anderson MIAM 31 465
Derek Fisher LA L 35 2,227
Derek Fisher LA L 34 2,441
Derek Fisher LA L 27 1,974
Derek Fisher LA L 26 709
Derek Fisher LA L 25 1,803
Devean George LA L 24 1,759
Devean George LA L 23 593
Devean George LA L 22 345
Devin Brown SN A 26 1,238
Dickey Simpkins CHIC 24 395
Dickey Simpkins CHIC 23 685
Don Ford LA L 27 580
Dwyane Wade MIAM 24 2,892
Earl Cureton PHIL 25 987
Eddie House BOST 29 1,480
Eddie Jordan LA L 27 608
Elden Campbell DETR 35 892
Fabricio Oberto SN A 31 1,365
Francisco Elson SN A 30 1,332
Frank Brickowski LA L 27 404
Franklin Edwards PHIL 23 1,266
Gary Payton MIAM 37 2,305
Gerald Henderson DETR 34 335
Gerald Henderson BOST 28 2,088
Gerald Henderson BOST 25 1,608
Glen Davis BOST 22 940
Glen Rice LA L 32 2,530
Greg Foster LA L 32 451
Greg Kite BOST 24 464
Hakeem Olajuwon HOUS 32 2,853
Hakeem Olajuwon HOUS 31 3,277
Horace Grant LA L 35 2,390
Horace Grant CHIC 27 2,745
Horace Grant CHIC 26 2,859
Horace Grant CHIC 25 2,641
Isaiah Rider LA L 29 1,206
Isiah Thomas DETR 28 2,993
Isiah Thomas DETR 27 2,924
Jacque Vaughn SN A 31 760
Jamaal Wilkes LA L 31 761
Jamaal Wilkes LA L 28 2,906
Jamaal Wilkes LA L 26 3,111
James Edwards DETR 34 2,283
James Edwards DETR 33 1,254
James Posey BOST 31 1,821
James Posey MIAM 29 1,914
James Worthy LA L 26 2,655
James Worthy LA L 25 2,819
James Worthy LA L 23 2,696
Jaren Jackson SN A 31 861
Jason Caffey CHIC 24 710
Jason Caffey CHIC 23 1,405
Jason Caffey CHIC 22 545
Jason Kapono MIAM 24 665
Jason Williams MIAM 30 1,874
Jerome Kersey SN A 36 699
Jerry Sichting BOST 29 1,596
Jim Brewer LA L 30 966
Jim Chones LA L 30 2,394
Joe Dumars DETR 26 2,578
Joe Dumars DETR 25 2,408
Joe Kleine CHIC 36 397
John Paxson CHIC 32 1,030
John Paxson CHIC 31 1,946
John Paxson CHIC 30 1,971
John Salley LA L 35 303
John Salley DETR 25 1,914
John Salley DETR 24 1,458
Jordan Farmar LA L 23 1,474
Jordan Farmar LA L 22 1,192
Josh Powell LA L 27 581
Josh Powell LA L 26 703
Jud Buechler CHIC 29 608
Jud Buechler CHIC 28 703
Jud Buechler CHIC 27 740
Julius Erving PHIL 32 2,421
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar LA L 40 2,308
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar LA L 39 2,441
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar LA L 37 2,630
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar LA L 34 2,677
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar LA L 32 3,143
Kendrick Perkins BOST 23 1,912
Kenny Smith HOUS 29 2,030
Kenny Smith HOUS 28 2,209
Kevin Garnett BOST 31 2,328
Kevin McHale BOST 28 2,397
Kevin McHale BOST 26 2,577
Kevin McHale BOST 23 1,645
Kevin Willis SN A 40 840
Kobe Bryant LA L 31 2,835
Kobe Bryant LA L 30 2,960
Kobe Bryant LA L 23 3,063
Kobe Bryant LA L 22 2,783
Kobe Bryant LA L 21 2,524
Kurt Rambis LA L 29 845
Kurt Rambis LA L 28 1,514
Kurt Rambis LA L 26 1,617
Kurt Rambis LA L 23 1,131
Lamar Odom LA L 30 2,585
Lamar Odom LA L 29 2,316
Larry Bird BOST 29 3,113
Larry Bird BOST 27 3,028
Larry Bird BOST 24 3,239
Larry Spriggs LA L 25 1,292
Leon Powe BOST 24 809
Lindsey Hunter DETR 33 661
Lindsey Hunter LA L 31 1,616
Luc Longley CHIC 29 1,703
Luc Longley CHIC 28 1,472
Luc Longley CHIC 27 1,641
Luke Walton LA L 28 1,166
M.L. Carr BOST 33 585
M.L. Carr BOST 30 655
Magic Johnson LA L 28 2,637
Magic Johnson LA L 27 2,904
Magic Johnson LA L 25 2,781
Magic Johnson LA L 22 2,991
Magic Johnson LA L 20 2,795
Malik Rose SN A 30 862
Malik Rose SN A 28 1,933
Malik Rose SN A 24 608
Manu Ginobili SN A 29 2,060
Manu Ginobili SN A 27 2,193
Manu Ginobili SN A 25 1,431
Marc Iavaroni PHIL 26 1,612
Mario Elie SN A 35 1,291
Mario Elie HOUS 31 1,896
Mario Elie HOUS 30 1,606
Mark Aguirre DETR 30 2,005
Mark Aguirre DETR 29 1,068
Mark Landsberger LA L 26 1,134
Mark Landsberger LA L 24 374
Mark Madsen LA L 26 650
Mark Madsen LA L 25 641
Matt Bonner SN A 26 654
Matt Bullard HOUS 26 725
Maurice Cheeks PHIL 26 2,465
Mehmet Okur DETR 24 1,580
Michael Cooper LA L 31 1,793
Michael Cooper LA L 30 2,253
Michael Cooper LA L 28 2,189
Michael Cooper LA L 25 2,197
Michael Cooper LA L 23 1,973
Michael Doleac MIAM 28 371
Michael Finley SN A 33 1,823
Michael Jordan CHIC 34 3,181
Michael Jordan CHIC 33 3,106
Michael Jordan CHIC 32 3,090
Michael Jordan CHIC 29 3,067
Michael Jordan CHIC 28 3,102
Michael Jordan CHIC 27 3,034
Micheal Williams DETR 22 358
Mike James DETR 28 512
Mike McGee LA L 25 1,170
Mike McGee LA L 22 352
Mike Penberthy LA L 26 851
Mike Smrek LA L 25 421
Milt Wagner LA L 24 380
Mitch Kupchak LA L 30 716
Mitch Kupchak LA L 27 821
Mitch Richmond LA L 36 709
Moses Malone PHIL 27 2,922
Mychal Thompson LA L 33 2,007
Mychal Thompson LA L 32 680
Nazr Mohammed SN A 27 414
Norm Nixon LA L 26 3,024
Norm Nixon LA L 24 3,226
Otis Thorpe HOUS 32 1,188
Otis Thorpe HOUS 31 2,909
Pau Gasol LA L 29 2,403
Pau Gasol LA L 28 2,999
Paul Pierce BOST 30 2,874
Pete Chilcutt HOUS 26 1,347
Quinn Buckner BOST 29 1,249
Rajon Rondo BOST 21 2,306
Randy Brown CHIC 29 1,147
Randy Brown CHIC 28 1,057
Randy Brown CHIC 27 671
Rasheed Wallace DETR 29 673
Rasho Nesterovic SN A 28 1,785
Ray Allen BOST 32 2,624
Reggie Johnson PHIL 25 549
Richard Hamilton DETR 25 2,772
Rick Carlisle BOST 26 760
Rick Fox LA L 32 2,289
Rick Fox LA L 31 2,291
Rick Fox LA L 30 1,473
Rick Mahorn DETR 30 1,795
Rick Robey BOST 25 1,569
Robert Horry SN A 36 1,124
Robert Horry SN A 34 1,396
Robert Horry LA L 31 2,140
Robert Horry LA L 30 1,587
Robert Horry LA L 29 1,685
Robert Horry HOUS 24 2,074
Robert Horry HOUS 23 2,370
Robert Parish CHIC 43 406
Robert Parish BOST 32 2,567
Robert Parish BOST 30 2,867
Robert Parish BOST 27 2,298
Rodney McCray CHIC 31 1,019
Ron Artest LA L 30 2,605
Ron Harper LA L 37 1,139
Ron Harper LA L 36 2,042
Ron Harper CHIC 34 2,284
Ron Harper CHIC 33 1,740
Ron Harper CHIC 32 1,886
Russ Schoene PHIL 22 702
Sam Cassell HOUS 25 1,882
Sam Cassell HOUS 24 1,122
Sam Vincent BOST 22 432
Samaki Walker LA L 25 1,655
Sasha Vujacic LA L 25 575
Sasha Vujacic LA L 24 1,293
Scott Brooks HOUS 28 1,225
Scott Burrell CHIC 27 1,096
Scott Wedman BOST 33 1,402
Scott Wedman BOST 31 916
Scott Williams CHIC 24 1,369
Scott Williams CHIC 23 690
Scott Williams CHIC 22 337
Scottie Pippen CHIC 32 1,652
Scottie Pippen CHIC 31 3,095
Scottie Pippen CHIC 30 2,825
Scottie Pippen CHIC 27 3,123
Scottie Pippen CHIC 26 3,164
Scottie Pippen CHIC 25 3,014
Sean Elliott SN A 30 1,509
Shandon Anderson MIAM 32 638
Shannon Brown LA L 24 1,700
Shaquille O'Neal MIAM 33 1,806
Shaquille O'Neal LA L 29 2,422
Shaquille O'Neal LA L 28 2,924
Shaquille O'Neal LA L 27 3,163
Speedy Claxton SN A 24 471
Spencer Haywood LA L 30 1,544
Stacey King CHIC 26 1,059
Stacey King CHIC 25 1,268
Stacey King CHIC 24 1,198
Stanislav Medvedenko LA L 22 729
Stephen Jackson SN A 24 2,254
Steve Kerr SN A 37 952
Steve Kerr SN A 33 734
Steve Kerr CHIC 32 1,119
Steve Kerr CHIC 31 1,861
Steve Kerr CHIC 30 1,919
Steve Smith SN A 33 1,032
Tayshaun Prince DETR 23 2,701
Tim Breaux HOUS 24 340
Tim Duncan SN A 30 2,725
Tim Duncan SN A 28 2,203
Tim Duncan SN A 26 3,181
Tim Duncan SN A 22 1,963
Tiny Archibald BOST 32 2,820
Toni Kukoc CHIC 29 2,235
Toni Kukoc CHIC 28 1,610
Toni Kukoc CHIC 27 2,103
Tony Allen BOST 26 1,373
Tony Massenburg SN A 37 699
Tony Parker SN A 24 2,499
Tony Parker SN A 22 2,735
Tony Parker SN A 20 2,774
Travis Knight LA L 25 410
Trent Tucker CHIC 33 909
Trevor Ariza LA L 23 1,998
Tyronn Lue LA L 23 468
Udonis Haslem MIAM 25 2,491
Vernon Maxwell HOUS 29 2,038
Vernon Maxwell HOUS 28 2,571
Vinnie Johnson DETR 33 1,972
Vinnie Johnson DETR 32 2,073
Vladimir Radmanovic LA L 28 771
Wayne Simien MIAM 22 414
Wes Matthews LA L 28 706
Wes Matthews LA L 27 532
Will Perdue SN A 33 445
Will Perdue CHIC 27 998
Will Perdue CHIC 26 1,007
Will Perdue CHIC 25 972
========== PLAYERS WHO WON THE QUEST FOR THE RING 1980-2010 ==========
-Alphabetical by first names
-Strict Version: All players who won a ring in a season when they played at least 1,200 minutes are included
Player / Team / Age / Minutes
A.C. Green LA L 36 1,929
A.C. Green LA L 24 2,636
A.C. Green LA L 23 2,240
Adrian Dantley DETR 32 1,341
Alonzo Mourning MIAM 35 1,302
Andrew Bynum LA L 22 1,977
Andrew Bynum LA L 21 1,446
Andrew Toney PHIL 25 2,474
Antoine Walker MIAM 29 2,199
Avery Johnson SN A 33 1,672
B.J. Armstrong CHIC 25 2,492
B.J. Armstrong CHIC 24 1,875
B.J. Armstrong CHIC 23 1,731
Ben Wallace DETR 29 3,050
Bill Cartwright CHIC 35 1,253
Bill Cartwright CHIC 34 1,471
Bill Cartwright CHIC 33 2,273
Bill Laimbeer DETR 32 2,675
Bill Laimbeer DETR 31 2,640
Bill Walton BOST 33 1,546
Bob McAdoo LA L 33 1,254
Bobby Jones PHIL 31 1,749
Brent Barry SN A 35 1,631
Brent Barry SN A 33 1,742
Brian Shaw LA L 34 1,833
Brian Shaw LA L 33 1,249
Bruce Bowen SN A 35 2,464
Bruce Bowen SN A 33 2,627
Bruce Bowen SN A 31 2,566
Byron Scott LA L 26 3,048
Byron Scott LA L 25 2,729
Byron Scott LA L 23 2,305
Carl Herrera HOUS 28 1,331
Carl Herrera HOUS 27 1,292
Cedric Maxwell BOST 28 2,502
Cedric Maxwell BOST 25 2,730
Chauncey Billups DETR 27 2,758
Chris Ford BOST 32 2,723
Clint Richardson PHIL 26 1,755
Clyde Drexler HOUS 32 1,300
Corliss Williamson DETR 30 1,574
Danny Ainge BOST 26 2,407
David Robinson SN A 37 1,676
David Robinson SN A 33 1,554
Dennis Johnson BOST 31 2,732
Dennis Johnson BOST 29 2,665
Dennis Rodman CHIC 36 2,856
Dennis Rodman CHIC 35 1,947
Dennis Rodman CHIC 34 2,088
Dennis Rodman DETR 28 2,377
Dennis Rodman DETR 27 2,208
Derek Fisher LA L 35 2,227
Derek Fisher LA L 34 2,441
Derek Fisher LA L 27 1,974
Derek Fisher LA L 25 1,803
Devean George LA L 24 1,759
Devin Brown SN A 26 1,238
Dwyane Wade MIAM 24 2,892
Eddie House BOST 29 1,480
Fabricio Oberto SN A 31 1,365
Francisco Elson SN A 30 1,332
Franklin Edwards PHIL 23 1,266
Gary Payton MIAM 37 2,305
Gerald Henderson BOST 28 2,088
Gerald Henderson BOST 25 1,608
Glen Rice LA L 32 2,530
Hakeem Olajuwon HOUS 32 2,853
Hakeem Olajuwon HOUS 31 3,277
Horace Grant LA L 35 2,390
Horace Grant CHIC 27 2,745
Horace Grant CHIC 26 2,859
Horace Grant CHIC 25 2,641
Isaiah Rider LA L 29 1,206
Isiah Thomas DETR 28 2,993
Isiah Thomas DETR 27 2,924
Jamaal Wilkes LA L 28 2,906
Jamaal Wilkes LA L 26 3,111
James Edwards DETR 34 2,283
James Edwards DETR 33 1,254
James Posey BOST 31 1,821
James Posey MIAM 29 1,914
James Worthy LA L 26 2,655
James Worthy LA L 25 2,819
James Worthy LA L 23 2,696
Jason Caffey CHIC 23 1,405
Jason Williams MIAM 30 1,874
Jerry Sichting BOST 29 1,596
Jim Chones LA L 30 2,394
Joe Dumars DETR 26 2,578
Joe Dumars DETR 25 2,408
John Paxson CHIC 31 1,946
John Paxson CHIC 30 1,971
John Salley DETR 25 1,914
John Salley DETR 24 1,458
Jordan Farmar LA L 23 1,474
Julius Erving PHIL 32 2,421
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar LA L 40 2,308
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar LA L 39 2,441
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar LA L 37 2,630
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar LA L 34 2,677
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar LA L 32 3,143
Kendrick Perkins BOST 23 1,912
Kenny Smith HOUS 29 2,030
Kenny Smith HOUS 28 2,209
Kevin Garnett BOST 31 2,328
Kevin McHale BOST 28 2,397
Kevin McHale BOST 26 2,577
Kevin McHale BOST 23 1,645
Kobe Bryant LA L 31 2,835
Kobe Bryant LA L 30 2,960
Kobe Bryant LA L 23 3,063
Kobe Bryant LA L 22 2,783
Kobe Bryant LA L 21 2,524
Kurt Rambis LA L 28 1,514
Kurt Rambis LA L 26 1,617
Lamar Odom LA L 30 2,585
Lamar Odom LA L 29 2,316
Larry Bird BOST 29 3,113
Larry Bird BOST 27 3,028
Larry Bird BOST 24 3,239
Larry Spriggs LA L 25 1,292
Lindsey Hunter LA L 31 1,616
Luc Longley CHIC 29 1,703
Luc Longley CHIC 28 1,472
Luc Longley CHIC 27 1,641
Magic Johnson LA L 28 2,637
Magic Johnson LA L 27 2,904
Magic Johnson LA L 25 2,781
Magic Johnson LA L 22 2,991
Magic Johnson LA L 20 2,795
Malik Rose SN A 28 1,933
Manu Ginobili SN A 29 2,060
Manu Ginobili SN A 27 2,193
Manu Ginobili SN A 25 1,431
Marc Iavaroni PHIL 26 1,612
Mario Elie SN A 35 1,291
Mario Elie HOUS 31 1,896
Mario Elie HOUS 30 1,606
Mark Aguirre DETR 30 2,005
Maurice Cheeks PHIL 26 2,465
Mehmet Okur DETR 24 1,580
Michael Cooper LA L 31 1,793
Michael Cooper LA L 30 2,253
Michael Cooper LA L 28 2,189
Michael Cooper LA L 25 2,197
Michael Cooper LA L 23 1,973
Michael Finley SN A 33 1,823
Michael Jordan CHIC 34 3,181
Michael Jordan CHIC 33 3,106
Michael Jordan CHIC 32 3,090
Michael Jordan CHIC 29 3,067
Michael Jordan CHIC 28 3,102
Michael Jordan CHIC 27 3,034
Moses Malone PHIL 27 2,922
Mychal Thompson LA L 33 2,007
Norm Nixon LA L 26 3,024
Norm Nixon LA L 24 3,226
Otis Thorpe HOUS 31 2,909
Pau Gasol LA L 29 2,403
Pau Gasol LA L 28 2,999
Paul Pierce BOST 30 2,874
Pete Chilcutt HOUS 26 1,347
Quinn Buckner BOST 29 1,249
Rajon Rondo BOST 21 2,306
Rasho Nesterovic SN A 28 1,785
Ray Allen BOST 32 2,624
Richard Hamilton DETR 25 2,772
Rick Fox LA L 32 2,289
Rick Fox LA L 31 2,291
Rick Fox LA L 30 1,473
Rick Mahorn DETR 30 1,795
Rick Robey BOST 25 1,569
Robert Horry SN A 34 1,396
Robert Horry LA L 31 2,140
Robert Horry LA L 30 1,587
Robert Horry LA L 29 1,685
Robert Horry HOUS 24 2,074
Robert Horry HOUS 23 2,370
Robert Parish BOST 32 2,567
Robert Parish BOST 30 2,867
Robert Parish BOST 27 2,298
Ron Artest LA L 30 2,605
Ron Harper LA L 36 2,042
Ron Harper CHIC 34 2,284
Ron Harper CHIC 33 1,740
Ron Harper CHIC 32 1,886
Sam Cassell HOUS 25 1,882
Samaki Walker LA L 25 1,655
Sasha Vujacic LA L 24 1,293
Scott Brooks HOUS 28 1,225
Scott Wedman BOST 33 1,402
Scott Williams CHIC 24 1,369
Scottie Pippen CHIC 32 1,652
Scottie Pippen CHIC 31 3,095
Scottie Pippen CHIC 30 2,825
Scottie Pippen CHIC 27 3,123
Scottie Pippen CHIC 26 3,164
Scottie Pippen CHIC 25 3,014
Sean Elliott SN A 30 1,509
Shannon Brown LA L 24 1,700
Shaquille O'Neal MIAM 33 1,806
Shaquille O'Neal LA L 29 2,422
Shaquille O'Neal LA L 28 2,924
Shaquille O'Neal LA L 27 3,163
Spencer Haywood LA L 30 1,544
Stacey King CHIC 25 1,268
Stephen Jackson SN A 24 2,254
Steve Kerr CHIC 31 1,861
Steve Kerr CHIC 30 1,919
Tayshaun Prince DETR 23 2,701
Tim Duncan SN A 30 2,725
Tim Duncan SN A 28 2,203
Tim Duncan SN A 26 3,181
Tim Duncan SN A 22 1,963
Tiny Archibald BOST 32 2,820
Toni Kukoc CHIC 29 2,235
Toni Kukoc CHIC 28 1,610
Toni Kukoc CHIC 27 2,103
Tony Allen BOST 26 1,373
Tony Parker SN A 24 2,499
Tony Parker SN A 22 2,735
Tony Parker SN A 20 2,774
Trevor Ariza LA L 23 1,998
Udonis Haslem MIAM 25 2,491
Vernon Maxwell HOUS 29 2,038
Vernon Maxwell HOUS 28 2,571
Vinnie Johnson DETR 33 1,972
Vinnie Johnson DETR 32 2,073
Quest for the Ring (QFTR) has provided the basketball world with the missing information and then some. Here for the second year we have the complete and correct listings for winners of the QFTR in multiple formats. Each year, scheduled for August, the following Reports are in this historical series:
1. Players and Teams Who Won the Quest for the Ring 1980-1994
2. Players and Teams Who Won the Quest for the Ring 1995-2010
3. Alphabetic Logs of all Players Who Have Won the Quest for the Ring 1980-2010
4. Players Ranked by Number of Championships and Rings Won Since 1980
5. Players Ranked by Minutes Played in Championship Years Since 1980
6. Most Recognized High Impact Players 1980-2010
7. Cities and Franchises That Won the Quest for the Ring 1950-2010
In 2010 these will be posted one each day beginning with #1 on August 21 and finishing with #7 on August 27.
After these look for the new and improved Real Coach Ratings and the second annual Report on player salaries, team payrolls, and team cap space.
Championships are by themselves crucial history, but they are also very important for the present, because players who have already won rings are, all other things equal, more valuable than players who have never won a ring. You might as well add about .050 to each such player's Real Player Rating. So a .700 becomes a.750, an .870 becomes a .920, and so forth.
ALPHABETIC LISTS OF ALL PLAYERS WHO HAVE WON THE QUEST FOR THE RING
In this Report we are doing two alphabetical lists of all players who won the Quest for the Ring between 1980 and 2010, with an entry for each time each player won. The first listing is called the inclusive version. In this one all players who won who played 300 minutes or more during the season are included. The second listing is called the strict version. In this one all players who won who played 1,200 minutes or more during the season are included. The first listing includes all players except ones who played very little. The second listing includes only players who were starters or heavy minutes non-starters for much of the season.
Each entry consists of (1) The name of the player (2) the player's team (3) the age of the player when he won and (4) the number of minutes he played during the season he won the Quest. You can find the year(s) any player won by checking the “Players and Teams Who Won the Quest for the Ring” Reports.
Minutes played are a pretty good approximation of how good the player was. But remember, as the User Guide to the Real Player Rating system explains, the players with the most minutes are not always actually the best players.
Obviously, this is the Report to use to look up any player by name. Aside from seeing whether a player you have in mind has ever won, you can quickly tell how many rings each player has won simply by observing how many times his name appears. The alphabetical sorting is by first name.
========== ALPHABETIC LIST OF PLAYERS WHO WON THE QUEST FOR THE RING 1980-2010 ==========
-Alphabetical by first names
-Inclusive Version: All players who won a ring in a season when they played at least 300 minutes are included
Player / Team / Age / Minutes
A.C. Green LA L 36 1,929
A.C. Green LA L 24 2,636
A.C. Green LA L 23 2,240
Adrian Dantley DETR 32 1,341
Alonzo Mourning MIAM 35 1,302
Andrew Bynum LA L 22 1,977
Andrew Bynum LA L 21 1,446
Andrew Toney PHIL 25 2,474
Antoine Walker MIAM 29 2,199
Antonio Daniels SN A 23 614
Avery Johnson SN A 33 1,672
B.J. Armstrong CHIC 25 2,492
B.J. Armstrong CHIC 24 1,875
B.J. Armstrong CHIC 23 1,731
Ben Wallace DETR 29 3,050
Beno Udrih SN A 24 948
Beno Udrih SN A 22 1,149
Bill Cartwright CHIC 35 1,253
Bill Cartwright CHIC 34 1,471
Bill Cartwright CHIC 33 2,273
Bill Laimbeer DETR 32 2,675
Bill Laimbeer DETR 31 2,640
Bill Walton BOST 33 1,546
Bill Wennington CHIC 34 467
Bill Wennington CHIC 33 783
Bill Wennington CHIC 32 1,065
Billy Thompson LA L 23 762
Bob Hansen CHIC 31 769
Bob McAdoo LA L 33 1,254
Bob McAdoo LA L 30 746
Bob Sura DETR 30 707
Bobby Jones PHIL 31 1,749
Brent Barry SN A 35 1,631
Brent Barry SN A 33 1,742
Brian Scalabrine BOST 29 512
Brian Shaw LA L 35 631
Brian Shaw LA L 34 1,833
Brian Shaw LA L 33 1,249
Bruce Bowen SN A 35 2,464
Bruce Bowen SN A 33 2,627
Bruce Bowen SN A 31 2,566
Byron Scott LA L 26 3,048
Byron Scott LA L 25 2,729
Byron Scott LA L 23 2,305
Carl Herrera HOUS 28 1,331
Carl Herrera HOUS 27 1,292
Cedric Maxwell BOST 28 2,502
Cedric Maxwell BOST 25 2,730
Chauncey Billups DETR 27 2,758
Chris Ford BOST 32 2,723
Chucky Atkins DETR 29 751
Chucky Brown HOUS 26 814
Clemon Johnson PHIL 26 698
Cliff Levingston CHIC 31 1,020
Cliff Levingston CHIC 30 1,013
Clint Richardson PHIL 26 1,755
Clyde Drexler HOUS 32 1,300
Corliss Williamson DETR 30 1,574
Craig Hodges CHIC 31 555
Craig Hodges CHIC 30 843
D.J. Mbenga LA L 19 355
Danny Ainge BOST 26 2,407
Danny Ainge BOST 24 1,154
Danny Ferry SN A 36 601
Darrell Walker CHIC 31 367
Darvin Ham DETR 30 484
David Robinson SN A 37 1,676
David Robinson SN A 33 1,554
David Thirdkill BOST 25 385
Dennis Hopson CHIC 25 728
Dennis Johnson BOST 31 2,732
Dennis Johnson BOST 29 2,665
Dennis Rodman CHIC 36 2,856
Dennis Rodman CHIC 35 1,947
Dennis Rodman CHIC 34 2,088
Dennis Rodman DETR 28 2,377
Dennis Rodman DETR 27 2,208
Derek Anderson MIAM 31 465
Derek Fisher LA L 35 2,227
Derek Fisher LA L 34 2,441
Derek Fisher LA L 27 1,974
Derek Fisher LA L 26 709
Derek Fisher LA L 25 1,803
Devean George LA L 24 1,759
Devean George LA L 23 593
Devean George LA L 22 345
Devin Brown SN A 26 1,238
Dickey Simpkins CHIC 24 395
Dickey Simpkins CHIC 23 685
Don Ford LA L 27 580
Dwyane Wade MIAM 24 2,892
Earl Cureton PHIL 25 987
Eddie House BOST 29 1,480
Eddie Jordan LA L 27 608
Elden Campbell DETR 35 892
Fabricio Oberto SN A 31 1,365
Francisco Elson SN A 30 1,332
Frank Brickowski LA L 27 404
Franklin Edwards PHIL 23 1,266
Gary Payton MIAM 37 2,305
Gerald Henderson DETR 34 335
Gerald Henderson BOST 28 2,088
Gerald Henderson BOST 25 1,608
Glen Davis BOST 22 940
Glen Rice LA L 32 2,530
Greg Foster LA L 32 451
Greg Kite BOST 24 464
Hakeem Olajuwon HOUS 32 2,853
Hakeem Olajuwon HOUS 31 3,277
Horace Grant LA L 35 2,390
Horace Grant CHIC 27 2,745
Horace Grant CHIC 26 2,859
Horace Grant CHIC 25 2,641
Isaiah Rider LA L 29 1,206
Isiah Thomas DETR 28 2,993
Isiah Thomas DETR 27 2,924
Jacque Vaughn SN A 31 760
Jamaal Wilkes LA L 31 761
Jamaal Wilkes LA L 28 2,906
Jamaal Wilkes LA L 26 3,111
James Edwards DETR 34 2,283
James Edwards DETR 33 1,254
James Posey BOST 31 1,821
James Posey MIAM 29 1,914
James Worthy LA L 26 2,655
James Worthy LA L 25 2,819
James Worthy LA L 23 2,696
Jaren Jackson SN A 31 861
Jason Caffey CHIC 24 710
Jason Caffey CHIC 23 1,405
Jason Caffey CHIC 22 545
Jason Kapono MIAM 24 665
Jason Williams MIAM 30 1,874
Jerome Kersey SN A 36 699
Jerry Sichting BOST 29 1,596
Jim Brewer LA L 30 966
Jim Chones LA L 30 2,394
Joe Dumars DETR 26 2,578
Joe Dumars DETR 25 2,408
Joe Kleine CHIC 36 397
John Paxson CHIC 32 1,030
John Paxson CHIC 31 1,946
John Paxson CHIC 30 1,971
John Salley LA L 35 303
John Salley DETR 25 1,914
John Salley DETR 24 1,458
Jordan Farmar LA L 23 1,474
Jordan Farmar LA L 22 1,192
Josh Powell LA L 27 581
Josh Powell LA L 26 703
Jud Buechler CHIC 29 608
Jud Buechler CHIC 28 703
Jud Buechler CHIC 27 740
Julius Erving PHIL 32 2,421
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar LA L 40 2,308
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar LA L 39 2,441
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar LA L 37 2,630
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar LA L 34 2,677
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar LA L 32 3,143
Kendrick Perkins BOST 23 1,912
Kenny Smith HOUS 29 2,030
Kenny Smith HOUS 28 2,209
Kevin Garnett BOST 31 2,328
Kevin McHale BOST 28 2,397
Kevin McHale BOST 26 2,577
Kevin McHale BOST 23 1,645
Kevin Willis SN A 40 840
Kobe Bryant LA L 31 2,835
Kobe Bryant LA L 30 2,960
Kobe Bryant LA L 23 3,063
Kobe Bryant LA L 22 2,783
Kobe Bryant LA L 21 2,524
Kurt Rambis LA L 29 845
Kurt Rambis LA L 28 1,514
Kurt Rambis LA L 26 1,617
Kurt Rambis LA L 23 1,131
Lamar Odom LA L 30 2,585
Lamar Odom LA L 29 2,316
Larry Bird BOST 29 3,113
Larry Bird BOST 27 3,028
Larry Bird BOST 24 3,239
Larry Spriggs LA L 25 1,292
Leon Powe BOST 24 809
Lindsey Hunter DETR 33 661
Lindsey Hunter LA L 31 1,616
Luc Longley CHIC 29 1,703
Luc Longley CHIC 28 1,472
Luc Longley CHIC 27 1,641
Luke Walton LA L 28 1,166
M.L. Carr BOST 33 585
M.L. Carr BOST 30 655
Magic Johnson LA L 28 2,637
Magic Johnson LA L 27 2,904
Magic Johnson LA L 25 2,781
Magic Johnson LA L 22 2,991
Magic Johnson LA L 20 2,795
Malik Rose SN A 30 862
Malik Rose SN A 28 1,933
Malik Rose SN A 24 608
Manu Ginobili SN A 29 2,060
Manu Ginobili SN A 27 2,193
Manu Ginobili SN A 25 1,431
Marc Iavaroni PHIL 26 1,612
Mario Elie SN A 35 1,291
Mario Elie HOUS 31 1,896
Mario Elie HOUS 30 1,606
Mark Aguirre DETR 30 2,005
Mark Aguirre DETR 29 1,068
Mark Landsberger LA L 26 1,134
Mark Landsberger LA L 24 374
Mark Madsen LA L 26 650
Mark Madsen LA L 25 641
Matt Bonner SN A 26 654
Matt Bullard HOUS 26 725
Maurice Cheeks PHIL 26 2,465
Mehmet Okur DETR 24 1,580
Michael Cooper LA L 31 1,793
Michael Cooper LA L 30 2,253
Michael Cooper LA L 28 2,189
Michael Cooper LA L 25 2,197
Michael Cooper LA L 23 1,973
Michael Doleac MIAM 28 371
Michael Finley SN A 33 1,823
Michael Jordan CHIC 34 3,181
Michael Jordan CHIC 33 3,106
Michael Jordan CHIC 32 3,090
Michael Jordan CHIC 29 3,067
Michael Jordan CHIC 28 3,102
Michael Jordan CHIC 27 3,034
Micheal Williams DETR 22 358
Mike James DETR 28 512
Mike McGee LA L 25 1,170
Mike McGee LA L 22 352
Mike Penberthy LA L 26 851
Mike Smrek LA L 25 421
Milt Wagner LA L 24 380
Mitch Kupchak LA L 30 716
Mitch Kupchak LA L 27 821
Mitch Richmond LA L 36 709
Moses Malone PHIL 27 2,922
Mychal Thompson LA L 33 2,007
Mychal Thompson LA L 32 680
Nazr Mohammed SN A 27 414
Norm Nixon LA L 26 3,024
Norm Nixon LA L 24 3,226
Otis Thorpe HOUS 32 1,188
Otis Thorpe HOUS 31 2,909
Pau Gasol LA L 29 2,403
Pau Gasol LA L 28 2,999
Paul Pierce BOST 30 2,874
Pete Chilcutt HOUS 26 1,347
Quinn Buckner BOST 29 1,249
Rajon Rondo BOST 21 2,306
Randy Brown CHIC 29 1,147
Randy Brown CHIC 28 1,057
Randy Brown CHIC 27 671
Rasheed Wallace DETR 29 673
Rasho Nesterovic SN A 28 1,785
Ray Allen BOST 32 2,624
Reggie Johnson PHIL 25 549
Richard Hamilton DETR 25 2,772
Rick Carlisle BOST 26 760
Rick Fox LA L 32 2,289
Rick Fox LA L 31 2,291
Rick Fox LA L 30 1,473
Rick Mahorn DETR 30 1,795
Rick Robey BOST 25 1,569
Robert Horry SN A 36 1,124
Robert Horry SN A 34 1,396
Robert Horry LA L 31 2,140
Robert Horry LA L 30 1,587
Robert Horry LA L 29 1,685
Robert Horry HOUS 24 2,074
Robert Horry HOUS 23 2,370
Robert Parish CHIC 43 406
Robert Parish BOST 32 2,567
Robert Parish BOST 30 2,867
Robert Parish BOST 27 2,298
Rodney McCray CHIC 31 1,019
Ron Artest LA L 30 2,605
Ron Harper LA L 37 1,139
Ron Harper LA L 36 2,042
Ron Harper CHIC 34 2,284
Ron Harper CHIC 33 1,740
Ron Harper CHIC 32 1,886
Russ Schoene PHIL 22 702
Sam Cassell HOUS 25 1,882
Sam Cassell HOUS 24 1,122
Sam Vincent BOST 22 432
Samaki Walker LA L 25 1,655
Sasha Vujacic LA L 25 575
Sasha Vujacic LA L 24 1,293
Scott Brooks HOUS 28 1,225
Scott Burrell CHIC 27 1,096
Scott Wedman BOST 33 1,402
Scott Wedman BOST 31 916
Scott Williams CHIC 24 1,369
Scott Williams CHIC 23 690
Scott Williams CHIC 22 337
Scottie Pippen CHIC 32 1,652
Scottie Pippen CHIC 31 3,095
Scottie Pippen CHIC 30 2,825
Scottie Pippen CHIC 27 3,123
Scottie Pippen CHIC 26 3,164
Scottie Pippen CHIC 25 3,014
Sean Elliott SN A 30 1,509
Shandon Anderson MIAM 32 638
Shannon Brown LA L 24 1,700
Shaquille O'Neal MIAM 33 1,806
Shaquille O'Neal LA L 29 2,422
Shaquille O'Neal LA L 28 2,924
Shaquille O'Neal LA L 27 3,163
Speedy Claxton SN A 24 471
Spencer Haywood LA L 30 1,544
Stacey King CHIC 26 1,059
Stacey King CHIC 25 1,268
Stacey King CHIC 24 1,198
Stanislav Medvedenko LA L 22 729
Stephen Jackson SN A 24 2,254
Steve Kerr SN A 37 952
Steve Kerr SN A 33 734
Steve Kerr CHIC 32 1,119
Steve Kerr CHIC 31 1,861
Steve Kerr CHIC 30 1,919
Steve Smith SN A 33 1,032
Tayshaun Prince DETR 23 2,701
Tim Breaux HOUS 24 340
Tim Duncan SN A 30 2,725
Tim Duncan SN A 28 2,203
Tim Duncan SN A 26 3,181
Tim Duncan SN A 22 1,963
Tiny Archibald BOST 32 2,820
Toni Kukoc CHIC 29 2,235
Toni Kukoc CHIC 28 1,610
Toni Kukoc CHIC 27 2,103
Tony Allen BOST 26 1,373
Tony Massenburg SN A 37 699
Tony Parker SN A 24 2,499
Tony Parker SN A 22 2,735
Tony Parker SN A 20 2,774
Travis Knight LA L 25 410
Trent Tucker CHIC 33 909
Trevor Ariza LA L 23 1,998
Tyronn Lue LA L 23 468
Udonis Haslem MIAM 25 2,491
Vernon Maxwell HOUS 29 2,038
Vernon Maxwell HOUS 28 2,571
Vinnie Johnson DETR 33 1,972
Vinnie Johnson DETR 32 2,073
Vladimir Radmanovic LA L 28 771
Wayne Simien MIAM 22 414
Wes Matthews LA L 28 706
Wes Matthews LA L 27 532
Will Perdue SN A 33 445
Will Perdue CHIC 27 998
Will Perdue CHIC 26 1,007
Will Perdue CHIC 25 972
========== PLAYERS WHO WON THE QUEST FOR THE RING 1980-2010 ==========
-Alphabetical by first names
-Strict Version: All players who won a ring in a season when they played at least 1,200 minutes are included
Player / Team / Age / Minutes
A.C. Green LA L 36 1,929
A.C. Green LA L 24 2,636
A.C. Green LA L 23 2,240
Adrian Dantley DETR 32 1,341
Alonzo Mourning MIAM 35 1,302
Andrew Bynum LA L 22 1,977
Andrew Bynum LA L 21 1,446
Andrew Toney PHIL 25 2,474
Antoine Walker MIAM 29 2,199
Avery Johnson SN A 33 1,672
B.J. Armstrong CHIC 25 2,492
B.J. Armstrong CHIC 24 1,875
B.J. Armstrong CHIC 23 1,731
Ben Wallace DETR 29 3,050
Bill Cartwright CHIC 35 1,253
Bill Cartwright CHIC 34 1,471
Bill Cartwright CHIC 33 2,273
Bill Laimbeer DETR 32 2,675
Bill Laimbeer DETR 31 2,640
Bill Walton BOST 33 1,546
Bob McAdoo LA L 33 1,254
Bobby Jones PHIL 31 1,749
Brent Barry SN A 35 1,631
Brent Barry SN A 33 1,742
Brian Shaw LA L 34 1,833
Brian Shaw LA L 33 1,249
Bruce Bowen SN A 35 2,464
Bruce Bowen SN A 33 2,627
Bruce Bowen SN A 31 2,566
Byron Scott LA L 26 3,048
Byron Scott LA L 25 2,729
Byron Scott LA L 23 2,305
Carl Herrera HOUS 28 1,331
Carl Herrera HOUS 27 1,292
Cedric Maxwell BOST 28 2,502
Cedric Maxwell BOST 25 2,730
Chauncey Billups DETR 27 2,758
Chris Ford BOST 32 2,723
Clint Richardson PHIL 26 1,755
Clyde Drexler HOUS 32 1,300
Corliss Williamson DETR 30 1,574
Danny Ainge BOST 26 2,407
David Robinson SN A 37 1,676
David Robinson SN A 33 1,554
Dennis Johnson BOST 31 2,732
Dennis Johnson BOST 29 2,665
Dennis Rodman CHIC 36 2,856
Dennis Rodman CHIC 35 1,947
Dennis Rodman CHIC 34 2,088
Dennis Rodman DETR 28 2,377
Dennis Rodman DETR 27 2,208
Derek Fisher LA L 35 2,227
Derek Fisher LA L 34 2,441
Derek Fisher LA L 27 1,974
Derek Fisher LA L 25 1,803
Devean George LA L 24 1,759
Devin Brown SN A 26 1,238
Dwyane Wade MIAM 24 2,892
Eddie House BOST 29 1,480
Fabricio Oberto SN A 31 1,365
Francisco Elson SN A 30 1,332
Franklin Edwards PHIL 23 1,266
Gary Payton MIAM 37 2,305
Gerald Henderson BOST 28 2,088
Gerald Henderson BOST 25 1,608
Glen Rice LA L 32 2,530
Hakeem Olajuwon HOUS 32 2,853
Hakeem Olajuwon HOUS 31 3,277
Horace Grant LA L 35 2,390
Horace Grant CHIC 27 2,745
Horace Grant CHIC 26 2,859
Horace Grant CHIC 25 2,641
Isaiah Rider LA L 29 1,206
Isiah Thomas DETR 28 2,993
Isiah Thomas DETR 27 2,924
Jamaal Wilkes LA L 28 2,906
Jamaal Wilkes LA L 26 3,111
James Edwards DETR 34 2,283
James Edwards DETR 33 1,254
James Posey BOST 31 1,821
James Posey MIAM 29 1,914
James Worthy LA L 26 2,655
James Worthy LA L 25 2,819
James Worthy LA L 23 2,696
Jason Caffey CHIC 23 1,405
Jason Williams MIAM 30 1,874
Jerry Sichting BOST 29 1,596
Jim Chones LA L 30 2,394
Joe Dumars DETR 26 2,578
Joe Dumars DETR 25 2,408
John Paxson CHIC 31 1,946
John Paxson CHIC 30 1,971
John Salley DETR 25 1,914
John Salley DETR 24 1,458
Jordan Farmar LA L 23 1,474
Julius Erving PHIL 32 2,421
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar LA L 40 2,308
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar LA L 39 2,441
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar LA L 37 2,630
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar LA L 34 2,677
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar LA L 32 3,143
Kendrick Perkins BOST 23 1,912
Kenny Smith HOUS 29 2,030
Kenny Smith HOUS 28 2,209
Kevin Garnett BOST 31 2,328
Kevin McHale BOST 28 2,397
Kevin McHale BOST 26 2,577
Kevin McHale BOST 23 1,645
Kobe Bryant LA L 31 2,835
Kobe Bryant LA L 30 2,960
Kobe Bryant LA L 23 3,063
Kobe Bryant LA L 22 2,783
Kobe Bryant LA L 21 2,524
Kurt Rambis LA L 28 1,514
Kurt Rambis LA L 26 1,617
Lamar Odom LA L 30 2,585
Lamar Odom LA L 29 2,316
Larry Bird BOST 29 3,113
Larry Bird BOST 27 3,028
Larry Bird BOST 24 3,239
Larry Spriggs LA L 25 1,292
Lindsey Hunter LA L 31 1,616
Luc Longley CHIC 29 1,703
Luc Longley CHIC 28 1,472
Luc Longley CHIC 27 1,641
Magic Johnson LA L 28 2,637
Magic Johnson LA L 27 2,904
Magic Johnson LA L 25 2,781
Magic Johnson LA L 22 2,991
Magic Johnson LA L 20 2,795
Malik Rose SN A 28 1,933
Manu Ginobili SN A 29 2,060
Manu Ginobili SN A 27 2,193
Manu Ginobili SN A 25 1,431
Marc Iavaroni PHIL 26 1,612
Mario Elie SN A 35 1,291
Mario Elie HOUS 31 1,896
Mario Elie HOUS 30 1,606
Mark Aguirre DETR 30 2,005
Maurice Cheeks PHIL 26 2,465
Mehmet Okur DETR 24 1,580
Michael Cooper LA L 31 1,793
Michael Cooper LA L 30 2,253
Michael Cooper LA L 28 2,189
Michael Cooper LA L 25 2,197
Michael Cooper LA L 23 1,973
Michael Finley SN A 33 1,823
Michael Jordan CHIC 34 3,181
Michael Jordan CHIC 33 3,106
Michael Jordan CHIC 32 3,090
Michael Jordan CHIC 29 3,067
Michael Jordan CHIC 28 3,102
Michael Jordan CHIC 27 3,034
Moses Malone PHIL 27 2,922
Mychal Thompson LA L 33 2,007
Norm Nixon LA L 26 3,024
Norm Nixon LA L 24 3,226
Otis Thorpe HOUS 31 2,909
Pau Gasol LA L 29 2,403
Pau Gasol LA L 28 2,999
Paul Pierce BOST 30 2,874
Pete Chilcutt HOUS 26 1,347
Quinn Buckner BOST 29 1,249
Rajon Rondo BOST 21 2,306
Rasho Nesterovic SN A 28 1,785
Ray Allen BOST 32 2,624
Richard Hamilton DETR 25 2,772
Rick Fox LA L 32 2,289
Rick Fox LA L 31 2,291
Rick Fox LA L 30 1,473
Rick Mahorn DETR 30 1,795
Rick Robey BOST 25 1,569
Robert Horry SN A 34 1,396
Robert Horry LA L 31 2,140
Robert Horry LA L 30 1,587
Robert Horry LA L 29 1,685
Robert Horry HOUS 24 2,074
Robert Horry HOUS 23 2,370
Robert Parish BOST 32 2,567
Robert Parish BOST 30 2,867
Robert Parish BOST 27 2,298
Ron Artest LA L 30 2,605
Ron Harper LA L 36 2,042
Ron Harper CHIC 34 2,284
Ron Harper CHIC 33 1,740
Ron Harper CHIC 32 1,886
Sam Cassell HOUS 25 1,882
Samaki Walker LA L 25 1,655
Sasha Vujacic LA L 24 1,293
Scott Brooks HOUS 28 1,225
Scott Wedman BOST 33 1,402
Scott Williams CHIC 24 1,369
Scottie Pippen CHIC 32 1,652
Scottie Pippen CHIC 31 3,095
Scottie Pippen CHIC 30 2,825
Scottie Pippen CHIC 27 3,123
Scottie Pippen CHIC 26 3,164
Scottie Pippen CHIC 25 3,014
Sean Elliott SN A 30 1,509
Shannon Brown LA L 24 1,700
Shaquille O'Neal MIAM 33 1,806
Shaquille O'Neal LA L 29 2,422
Shaquille O'Neal LA L 28 2,924
Shaquille O'Neal LA L 27 3,163
Spencer Haywood LA L 30 1,544
Stacey King CHIC 25 1,268
Stephen Jackson SN A 24 2,254
Steve Kerr CHIC 31 1,861
Steve Kerr CHIC 30 1,919
Tayshaun Prince DETR 23 2,701
Tim Duncan SN A 30 2,725
Tim Duncan SN A 28 2,203
Tim Duncan SN A 26 3,181
Tim Duncan SN A 22 1,963
Tiny Archibald BOST 32 2,820
Toni Kukoc CHIC 29 2,235
Toni Kukoc CHIC 28 1,610
Toni Kukoc CHIC 27 2,103
Tony Allen BOST 26 1,373
Tony Parker SN A 24 2,499
Tony Parker SN A 22 2,735
Tony Parker SN A 20 2,774
Trevor Ariza LA L 23 1,998
Udonis Haslem MIAM 25 2,491
Vernon Maxwell HOUS 29 2,038
Vernon Maxwell HOUS 28 2,571
Vinnie Johnson DETR 33 1,972
Vinnie Johnson DETR 32 2,073
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Here are some quick links that you can use to find a place where you might post a link to Quest and/or to Quest content.
HOLD MOUSE HERE TO EXPAND THIS MENU OF PLACES ON WHICH YOU CAN POST A LINK TO QUEST:
BASKETBALL SITES THAT ARE OPEN FOR CONTENT FROM ANYONE
Note: Beware of "layered" sites. None of the following are layered sites, which are sites that allow contributions from the public only in hard to find, low traffic areas, while the main areas are off limits for public input and are only for a chosen few. All of the following have at least some notable traffic, and all of them allow relatively equal and open participation. The order is from most recommended to least recommended, based on about half a dozen factors.
Bleacher Report Open Posting Site
Inside Hoops NBA Forum
Real GM NBA and Team Forums
Pro Sports Daily NBA Forum
Basketball Forum NBA Forum
Sporting News NBA Forum
Hoops Hype NBA Forum
Armchair GM Open Posting Site
SportsTwo NBA Forum
NBA Dimensions NBA Forum
OTR Basketball Forums NBA Forum
NBA Boards NBA Forum
NBA Wire NBA Forum
KFFL NBA Forum
Note: there are other forums, but they are all very low traffic and activity compared to the ones above.
MESSAGE BOARDS AT HUGE COROPORATIONS
The Fox NBA board is very low traffic, and the MSNBC NBA board doesn't exist anymore. The CBS Sports NBA Message Board is a layered site; you can NOT post topics nor expect to be considered seriously there until you have spent a few years posting there. We do not recommend CBS Sports. So the only real, fully open NBA forum hosted by a big corporation is the ESPN message board. Be forewarned though that the ESPN board is dominated by very young fans who make very short comments. On the other hand, it is a high traffic site, so we won't stop you from posting a Quest link at ESPN if you want to.
ESPN NBA Message Board
GIVE US THE JUICE TO PRODUCE REPORTS MORE QUICKLY
Although there is a guaranteed minimum rate of Report production regardless of traffic, IT IS IN YOUR POWER to help double or triple the number of and frequency of Reports. Simply take two or three minutes as often as you can to recommend Quest and post links to Quest on your favorite sports and other sites. The resulting automatic increase of traffic will in turn increase the resources that go in to producing Quest, which in turn speeds up reporting. If you want, e-mail how you helped (include the url of where you posted a link to Quest) and we will throw some Internet love back to where you tell us on the Internet. Thank you.
Here are some quick links that you can use to find a place where you might post a link to Quest and/or to Quest content.
HOLD MOUSE HERE TO EXPAND THIS MENU OF PLACES ON WHICH YOU CAN POST A LINK TO QUEST:
BASKETBALL SITES THAT ARE OPEN FOR CONTENT FROM ANYONE
Note: Beware of "layered" sites. None of the following are layered sites, which are sites that allow contributions from the public only in hard to find, low traffic areas, while the main areas are off limits for public input and are only for a chosen few. All of the following have at least some notable traffic, and all of them allow relatively equal and open participation. The order is from most recommended to least recommended, based on about half a dozen factors.
Bleacher Report Open Posting Site
Inside Hoops NBA Forum
Real GM NBA and Team Forums
Pro Sports Daily NBA Forum
Basketball Forum NBA Forum
Sporting News NBA Forum
Hoops Hype NBA Forum
Armchair GM Open Posting Site
SportsTwo NBA Forum
NBA Dimensions NBA Forum
OTR Basketball Forums NBA Forum
NBA Boards NBA Forum
NBA Wire NBA Forum
KFFL NBA Forum
Note: there are other forums, but they are all very low traffic and activity compared to the ones above.
MESSAGE BOARDS AT HUGE COROPORATIONS
The Fox NBA board is very low traffic, and the MSNBC NBA board doesn't exist anymore. The CBS Sports NBA Message Board is a layered site; you can NOT post topics nor expect to be considered seriously there until you have spent a few years posting there. We do not recommend CBS Sports. So the only real, fully open NBA forum hosted by a big corporation is the ESPN message board. Be forewarned though that the ESPN board is dominated by very young fans who make very short comments. On the other hand, it is a high traffic site, so we won't stop you from posting a Quest link at ESPN if you want to.
ESPN NBA Message Board
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