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Thursday, February 26, 2009
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POSITION CODES PG Point Guard SG Shooting Guard SF Small Forward PF Power Forward C Center
SCALE FOR REGULAR SEASON REAL PLAYER RATINGS Perfect Player for all Practical Purposes / Major Historic Super Star 1.100 and more Historic Super Star 1.000 1.099 Super Star 0.900 0.999 A Star Player / A well above normal starter 0.820 0.899 Very Good Player / A solid starter 0.760 0.819 Major Role Player / Good enough to start 0.700 0.759 Good Role Player / Often a good 6th man, can possibly start 0.640 0.699 Satisfactory Role Player / Generally should not start 0.580 0.639 Marginal Role Player / Should not start except in an emergency 0.520 0.579 Poor Player / Should never start 0.460 0.519 Very Poor Player 0.400 0.459 Extremely Poor Player .399 and less
NBA REAL PLAYER RATINGS 2009-10 REGULAR SEASON --Shows the real quality of players --Includes all tracked actions and also includes untracked or hidden defending --The average Real Player Rating for all players who play 300 minutes or more is about .700. --All players who have played at least 300 minutes are included here
ATLANTA HAWKS Josh Smith SF 1.033 Al Horford C 0.970 Joe Johnson SG 0.883 Mike Bibby PG 0.803 Jamal Crawford SG 0.721 Marvin Williams PF 0.716 Jeff Teague PG 0.544 Zaza Pachulia C 0.538 Maurice Evans SF 0.462 Joe Smith PF 0.453
BOSTON CELTICS Rajon Rondo PG 1.084 Kevin Garnett PF 1.033 Paul Pierce SF 0.836 Kendrick Perkins C 0.807 Ray Allen SG 0.770 Rasheed Wallace PF 0.757 Shelden Williams PF 0.748 Nate Robinson PG 0.668 Tony Allen SG 0.663 Michael Finley SF 0.585 Marquis Daniels SG 0.543 Glen Davis PF 0.508 Brian Scalabrine C 0.329
CHARLOTTE BOBCATS Gerald Wallace SF 0.918 Tyrus Thomas PF 0.870 Raymond Felton PG 0.857 Nazr Mohammed C 0.818 Stephen Jackson SF 0.754 Boris Diaw PF 0.746 D.J. Augustin PG 0.712 Tyson Chandler C 0.709 Stephen Graham SF 0.702 Ronald Murray SG 0.671 Gerald Henderson SG 0.664 Theo Ratliff C 0.650 Derrick Brown SF 0.575
CHICAGO BULLS Joakim Noah C 0.955 Tyrus Thomas PF 0.904 Derrick Rose PG 0.903 Luol Deng SF 0.817 John Salmons SF 0.776 Taj Gibson PF 0.741 Brad Miller C 0.720 Kirk Hinrich PG 0.689 Jannero Pargo PG 0.577 Hakim Warrick PF 0.514 Ronald Murray SG 0.504 James Johnson PF 0.487
CLEVELAND CAVALIERS LeBron James SF 1.382 Anderson Varejao C 0.933 Delonte West SG 0.856 Shaquille O'Neal C 0.842 Mo Williams PG 0.835 Antawn Jamison PF 0.819 Zydrunas Ilgauskas C 0.758 Jamario Moon SF 0.754 Daniel Gibson PG 0.660 J.J. Hickson PF 0.599 Anthony Parker SG 0.596 Jawad Williams SF 0.369
DALLAS MAVERICKS Jason Kidd PG 1.092 Dirk Nowitzki PF 1.034 Brendan Haywood C 0.929 Erick Dampier C 0.826 Jason Terry SG 0.791 Shawn Marion SF 0.772 Caron Butler SF 0.715 Rodrigue Beaubois PG 0.707 Jose Juan Barea PG 0.694 Drew Gooden PF 0.674 Kris Humphries PF 0.642 Eduardo Najera PF 0.482 Josh Howard SF 0.460 Quinton Ross SF 0.406
DENVER NUGGETS Chauncey Billups PG 0.883 Carmelo Anthony SF 0.874 Nene Hilario C 0.852 Chris Andersen PF 0.849 Ty Lawson PG 0.768 J.R. Smith SG 0.738 Kenyon Martin PF 0.709 Anthony Carter PG 0.686 Johan Petro C 0.635 Arron Afflalo SG 0.573 Joey Graham SF 0.473 Malik Allen PF 0.282
DETROIT PISTONS Ben Wallace C 0.877 Rodney Stuckey PG 0.749 Tayshaun Prince SF 0.724 Jonas Jerebko SF 0.610 Richard Hamilton SG 0.592 Charlie Villanueva PF 0.582 Will Bynum PG 0.568 Jason Maxiell PF 0.532 Austin Daye SF 0.507 Ben Gordon SG 0.491 Chucky Atkins PG 0.477 Kwame Brown C 0.452 Chris Wilcox C 0.417 DaJuan Summers SF 0.266
GOLDEN STATE WARRIORS Andris Biedrins C 0.825 Anthony Randolph PF 0.820 Stephen Curry PG 0.803 Ronny Turiaf C 0.774 C.J. Watson PG 0.746 Monta Ellis PG 0.711 Anthony Tolliver PF 0.709 Stephen Jackson SF 0.704 Corey Maggette SF 0.699 Reggie Williams SF 0.673 Anthony Morrow SG 0.661 Devean George SG 0.592 Chris Hunter PF 0.576 Mikki Moore C 0.561 Vladimir Radmanovic SF 0.494
HOUSTON ROCKETS Kyle Lowry PG 0.835 Carl Landry PF 0.816 Luis Scola PF 0.816 Chuck Hayes PF 0.765 Aaron Brooks PG 0.747 Trevor Ariza SG 0.723 David Andersen C 0.715 Shane Battier SF 0.703 Jordan Hill PF 0.661 Chase Budinger SF 0.621 Kevin Martin SG 0.572 Jared Jeffries PF 0.462 Jermaine Taylor SG 0.428
INDIANA PACERS Troy Murphy PF 0.934 Danny Granger SF 0.885 Roy Hibbert C 0.880 A.J. Price PG 0.868 Tyler Hansbrough PF 0.724 Earl Watson PG 0.701 T.J. Ford PG 0.700 Mike Dunleavy SF 0.686 Josh McRoberts PF 0.659 Luther Head PG 0.654 Brandon Rush SG 0.606 Dahntay Jones SG 0.542 Solomon Jones PF 0.493
LOS ANGELES CLIPPERS Marcus Camby C 1.071 Baron Davis PG 0.899 Craig Smith PF 0.865 Chris Kaman C 0.783 Sebastian Telfair PG 0.717 Drew Gooden PF 0.678 Steve Blake PG 0.677 Travis Outlaw SF 0.668 Eric Gordon SG 0.550 Al Thornton SF 0.547 DeAndre Jordan C 0.512 Rasual Butler SG 0.509 Ricky Davis SF 0.437 Mardy Collins PG 0.436 Steve Novak SF 0.345
LOS ANGELES LAKERS Pau Gasol PF 1.065 Kobe Bryant SG 1.005 Lamar Odom PF 0.982 Andrew Bynum C 0.936 Ron Artest SF 0.752 D.J. Mbenga C 0.725 Jordan Farmar PG 0.689 Shannon Brown PG 0.687 Derek Fisher PG 0.578 Sasha Vujacic SG 0.554 Josh Powell PF 0.386
MEMPHIS GRIZZLIES Zach Randolph PF 0.885 Marc Gasol C 0.885 Mike Conley PG 0.702 Rudy Gay SF 0.675 O.J. Mayo SG 0.622 Jamaal Tinsley PG 0.613 Hasheem Thabeet C 0.605 Marcus Williams PG 0.583 Sam Young SF 0.508 Darrell Arthur PF 0.443 DeMarre Carroll SF 0.357
MIAMI HEAT Dwyane Wade SG 1.075 Carlos Arroyo PG 0.819 Dorell Wright SG 0.817 Jermaine O'Neal C 0.805 Udonis Haslem PF 0.774 Michael Beasley PF 0.714 Daequan Cook SG 0.691 Quentin Richardson SG 0.675 Mario Chalmers PG 0.648 Joel Anthony C 0.624 Jamaal Magloire C 0.594 James Jones SF 0.525 Rafer Alston PG 0.482
MILWAUKEE BUCKS Andrew Bogut C 1.112 John Salmons SF 0.937 Brandon Jennings PG 0.870 Ersan Ilyasova SF 0.828 Luke Ridnour PG 0.827 Carlos Delfino SG 0.809 Dan Gadzuric C 0.754 Luc Richard Mbah a Moute SF 0.721 Jerry Stackhouse SF 0.675 Kurt Thomas PF 0.608 Hakim Warrick PF 0.571 Michael Redd SG 0.551 Charlie Bell SG 0.518 Jodie Meeks SG 0.413
MINNESOTA TIMBERWOLVES Kevin Love PF 0.934 Al Jefferson C 0.856 Oleksiy Pecherov C 0.748 Ramon Sessions PG 0.699 Darko Milicic C 0.674 Damien Wilkins SG 0.601 Ryan Gomes SF 0.589 Nathan Jawai PF 0.575 Jonny Flynn PG 0.568 Wayne Ellington SG 0.521 Corey Brewer SF 0.518 Ryan Hollins C 0.351 Sasha Pavlovic SG 0.314
NEW JERSEY NETS Keyon Dooling PG 0.771 Brook Lopez C 0.770 Josh Boone C 0.718 Terrence Williams SG 0.698 Bobby Simmons SF 0.676 Devin Harris PG 0.665 Kris Humphries PF 0.646 Rafer Alston PG 0.589 Yi Jianlian PF 0.575 Chris Douglas-Roberts SG 0.541 Courtney Lee SG 0.528 Jarvis Hayes SF 0.438 Trenton Hassell SF 0.342
NEW ORLEANS HORNETS Chris Paul PG 1.202 David West PF 0.781 Darren Collison PG 0.775 Emeka Okafor C 0.742 Marcus Thornton SG 0.693 Peja Stojakovic SF 0.615 Bobby Brown PG 0.611 James Posey SF 0.564 Darius Songaila PF 0.561 Julian Wright SF 0.545 Devin Brown SG 0.533 Morris Peterson SG 0.394
NEW YORK KNICKS David Lee C 0.971 Nate Robinson PG 0.804 Larry Hughes SG 0.675 Danilo Gallinari SF 0.664 Wilson Chandler SF 0.664 Al Harrington PF 0.655 Chris Duhon PG 0.643 Jared Jeffries PF 0.627 Tracy McGrady SG 0.588 Toney Douglas PG 0.577 Sergio Rodriguez PG 0.574 Bill Walker SG 0.532 Eddie House SG 0.454
OKLAHOMA THUNDER Kevin Durant SF 1.051 Russell Westbrook PG 0.897 Eric Maynor PG 0.856 Serge Ibaka PF 0.855 Nick Collison PF 0.812 James Harden SG 0.770 Jeff Green PF 0.659 Nenad Krstic C 0.642 Thabo Sefolosha SF 0.589 Etan Thomas C 0.538
ORLANDO MAGIC Dwight Howard C 1.121 Jameer Nelson PG 0.959 Vince Carter SG 0.928 Ryan Anderson PF 0.840 Matt Barnes SF 0.775 Jason Williams PG 0.771 Rashard Lewis PF 0.721 Marcin Gortat PF 0.698 Anthony Johnson PG 0.658 J.J. Redick SG 0.658 Brandon Bass PF 0.648 Mickael Pietrus SG 0.631
PHILADELPHIA 76'ERS Samuel Dalembert C 0.864 Andre Iguodala SG 0.858 Lou Williams SG 0.756 Elton Brand PF 0.726 Allen Iverson SG 0.722 Jrue Holiday PG 0.633 Marreese Speights PF 0.613 Thaddeus Young SF 0.607 Rodney Carney SF 0.601 Willie Green SG 0.598 Jason Smith PF 0.466 Jason Kapono SG 0.383
PHOENIX SUNS Steve Nash PG 1.095 Amare Stoudemire PF 0.828 Goran Dragic PG 0.803 Channing Frye C 0.731 Louis Amundson PF 0.731 Jason Richardson SG 0.718 Robin Lopez C 0.684 Grant Hill SF 0.669 Jared Dudley SF 0.660 Leandro Barbosa SG 0.626 Earl Clark SF 0.474
PORTLAND TRAILBLAZERS Greg Oden C 1.060 Marcus Camby C 0.967 Andre Miller PG 0.874 Brandon Roy SG 0.842 LaMarcus Aldridge PF 0.817 Joel Przybilla C 0.782 Rudy Fernandez SG 0.678 Steve Blake PG 0.667 Nicolas Batum SF 0.653 Martell Webster SG 0.583 Jerryd Bayless PG 0.556 Dante Cunningham SF 0.551 Juwan Howard PF 0.520 Jeff Pendergraph PF 0.432
SACRAMENTO KINGS Sergio Rodriguez PG 0.908 Tyreke Evans PG 0.825 Beno Udrih PG 0.768 Francisco Garcia SG 0.724 Sean May PF 0.710 Carl Landry PF 0.689 Jason Thompson PF 0.686 Spencer Hawes C 0.680 Omri Casspi SF 0.609 Kevin Martin SG 0.591 Ime Udoka SG 0.574 Jon Brockman PF 0.554 Donte Greene SF 0.524 Kenny Thomas PF 0.523 Andres Nocioni SF 0.464
SAN ANTONIO SPURS Tim Duncan PF 1.254 Manu Ginobili SG 1.023 Antonio McDyess PF 0.839 Tony Parker PG 0.837 DeJuan Blair PF 0.784 Matt Bonner PF 0.763 Richard Jefferson SF 0.721 George Hill PG 0.713 Roger Mason SG 0.619 Keith Bogans SG 0.462 Malik Hairston SG 0.433 Michael Finley SF 0.321
TORONTO RAPTORS Chris Bosh PF 0.972 Jose Calderon PG 0.797 Amir Johnson SF 0.769 Reggie Evans PF 0.763 Jarrett Jack PG 0.698 Rasho Nesterovic C 0.637 Hedo Turkoglu SF 0.635 Andrea Bargnani C 0.591 Marco Belinelli SG 0.587 Sonny Weems SG 0.537 Antoine Wright SF 0.451 DeMar DeRozan SG 0.414
UTAH JAZZ Deron Williams PG 1.076 Carlos Boozer PF 0.994 Andrei Kirilenko SF 0.976 Paul Millsap PF 0.866 Kyle Korver SG 0.824 Eric Maynor PG 0.819 Mehmet Okur C 0.800 Ronnie Price PG 0.784 Ronnie Brewer SG 0.712 Kyrylo Fesenko C 0.662 Wesley Matthews SG 0.592 C.J. Miles SF 0.549
WASHINGTON WIZARDS Shaun Livingston PG 0.783 Andray Blatche C 0.770 Gilbert Arenas PG 0.760 Brendan Haywood C 0.744 Mike Miller SF 0.732 James Singleton SF 0.696 JaVale McGee C 0.694 Antawn Jamison PF 0.665 Randy Foye PG 0.634 Caron Butler SF 0.617 Earl Boykins PG 0.599 Al Thornton SF 0.569 Fabricio Oberto C 0.468 Nick Young SG 0.462 DeShawn Stevenson SG 0.287
AVERAGE RATINGS BY POSITION Not all positions are created equal. These are the average ratings by position among all NBA players who play 300 minutes or more. There are very few small forwards and shooting guards who are superstars. Most (but definitely not all) superstars are players who can play point guard, power forward, or center.
Point Guard .750 Shooting Guard .640 Small Forward .640 Power Forward .720 Center .750 All Positions / All Players (NBA Overall Average) .700
PLAYOFF GRADE PLAYERS Playoff Grade Players have ratings of .560 and higher. Players with ratings below .560 should not play in the playoffs unless the team is forced to play them so that they have two players at a position and/or so that the team has at least eight players playing in the playoffs and/or because the coach is absolutely certain the low rating player will play better in the playoffs than he did in the regular season.
REGULAR SEASON STARTING PLAYERS All starters on all teams should have ratings of .575 and higher. If a team has no player at a position with at least a .575 rating, then it is extremely deficient at that position due to injuries or due to management incompetence.
THE ALL IMPORTANT, AWARD WINNING REAL PLAYER RATINGS USER GUIDE The above are a few highlights from the User Guide for Real Player Ratings. For complete details regarding how the Real Player Ratings are designed, how and why they work, and how exactly you can use them, see the User Guide. The User Guide for Real Player Ratings is a necessary reference for anyone who wants to truly understand the value of, the validity of, and the ways you can use the Real Player Rating performance measures.
Also, you should become a regular visitor to Quest for the Ring if you want to get the full advantage of reading and using Real Player Ratings Series performance measures. The more you visit and check out ratings, the more quickly and easily you will be able to evaluate what you are seeing.
