NBA POWER FORWARDS REAL PLAYER RATINGS
2009-10 REGULAR SEASON
POSITION AND TEAM CODES
In the Real Player and related ratings shown for the League, two codes follow each players' name (and before his rating). The first code tells you the players' team and the second one tells you his position.
All the players in this Report are power forwards.
TEAM CODES
ATLA Atlanta Hawks
BOST Boston Celtics
CHAR Charlotte Bobcats
CHIC Chicago Bulls
CLEV Cleveland Cavaliers
DALL Dallas Mavericks
DENV Denver Nuggets
DETR Detroit Pistons
GOLS Golden State Warriors
HOUS Houston Rockets
INDI Indiana Pacers
LACL Los Angeles Clippers
LALK Los Angeles Lakers
MEMP Memphis Grizzlies
MIAM Miami Heat
MILW Milwaukee Bucks
MINN Minnesota Timberwolves
NJRS New Jersey Nets
NORL New Orleans Hornets
NWYR New York Knicks
OKLA Oklahoma Thunder
ORLA Orlando Magic
PHIL Philadelphia 76'ers
PHNX Phoenix Suns
PORT Portland Trailblazers
SACR Sacramento Kings
SANA San Antonio Spurs
TORO Toronto Raptors
UTAH Utah Jazz
WASH Washington Wizards
POSITION CODES
PG Point Guard
SG Shooting Guard
SF Small Forward
PF Power Forward
C Center
SCALE FOR REGULAR SEASON REAL PLAYER RATINGS FOR POWER FORWARDS
Major Historic Super Star Power Forward / Virtually Perfect Player 1.120 and more
Historic Super Star Power Forward 1.020 1.119
Super Star Power Forward 0.920 1.019
A Star Power Forward / A well above normal starter 0.840 0.919
Very Good Power Forward / A solid starter 0.780 0.839
Major Role Player Power Forward / Good enough to start 0.720 0.779
Good Role Player Power Forward / Often a good 6th man 0.660 0.719
Satisfactory Role Player Power Forward / Generally should not start 0.600 0.659
Marginal Role Player Power Forward / Should never start 0.540 0.599
Poor Power Forward 0.480 0.539
Very Poor Power Forward 0.420 0.479
Extremely Poor Power Forward .419 and less
NBA POWER FORWARDS REAL PLAYER RATINGS
2009-10 REGULAR SEASON
--Shows the real quality of power forwards
--Includes all tracked actions and includes untracked or hidden defending
--The average Real Player Rating for NBA power forwards who play 300 minutes or more is about .720
--The evaluation scale above is custom made for power forwards
--All power forwards who have played at least 300 minutes are included
MAJOR HISTORIC SUPERSTAR POWER FORWARDS
1 Tim Duncan SANA PF 1.254
HISTORIC SUPERSTAR POWER FORWARDS
2 Pau Gasol LALK PF 1.065
3 Dirk Nowitzki DALL PF 1.034
4 Kevin Garnett BOST PF 1.033
SUPERSTAR POWER FORWARDS
5 Carlos Boozer UTAH PF 0.994
6 Lamar Odom LALK PF 0.982
7 Chris Bosh TORO PF 0.972
8 Troy Murphy INDI PF 0.934
9 Kevin Love MINN PF 0.934
STAR POWER FORWARDS
10 Tyrus Thomas CHIC PF 0.904
11 Zach Randolph MEMP PF 0.885
12 Tyrus Thomas CHAR PF 0.870
13 Paul Millsap UTAH PF 0.866
14 Craig Smith LACL PF 0.865
15 Serge Ibaka OKLA PF 0.855
16 Chris Andersen DENV PF 0.849
17 Ryan Anderson ORLA PF 0.840
VERY GOOD POWER FORWARDS / SOLID STARTERS
18 Antonio McDyess SANA PF 0.839
19 Amare Stoudemire PHNX PF 0.828
20 Anthony Randolph GOLS PF 0.820
21 Antawn Jamison CLEV PF 0.819
22 LaMarcus Aldridge PORT PF 0.817
23 Carl Landry HOUS PF 0.816
24 Luis Scola HOUS PF 0.816
25 Nick Collison OKLA PF 0.812
26 DeJuan Blair SANA PF 0.784
27 David West NORL PF 0.781
MAJOR ROLE PLAYER POWER FORWARDS / GOOD ENOUGH TO START
28 Udonis Haslem MIAM PF 0.774
29 Chuck Hayes HOUS PF 0.765
30 Matt Bonner SANA PF 0.763
31 Reggie Evans TORO PF 0.763
32 Rasheed Wallace BOST PF 0.757
33 Shelden Williams BOST PF 0.748
34 Boris Diaw CHAR PF 0.746
35 Taj Gibson CHIC PF 0.741
36 Louis Amundson PHNX PF 0.731
37 Elton Brand PHIL PF 0.726
38 Tyler Hansbrough INDI PF 0.724
39 Rashard Lewis ORLA PF 0.721
THE AVERAGE REAL PLAYER RATING FOR NBA POWER FORWARDS
for all power forwards who play 300 minutes or more is about .720
GOOD ROLE PLAYER POWER FORWARDS / OFTEN GOOD 6TH MAN PLAYERS
40 Marvin Williams ATLA PF 0.716
41 Michael Beasley MIAM PF 0.714
42 Sean May SACR PF 0.710
43 Anthony Tolliver GOLS PF 0.709
44 Kenyon Martin DENV PF 0.709
45 Marcin Gortat ORLA PF 0.698
46 Carl Landry SACR PF 0.689
47 Jason Thompson SACR PF 0.686
48 Drew Gooden LACL PF 0.678
49 Drew Gooden DALL PF 0.674
50 Antawn Jamison WASH PF 0.665
51 Jordan Hill HOUS PF 0.661
SATISFACTORY ROLE PLAYER POWER FORWARDS / GENERALLY SHOULD NOT START
52 Jeff Green OKLA PF 0.659
53 Josh McRoberts INDI PF 0.659
54 Al Harrington NWYR PF 0.655
55 Brandon Bass ORLA PF 0.648
56 Kris Humphries NJRS PF 0.646
57 Kris Humphries DALL PF 0.642
58 Jared Jeffries NWYR PF 0.627
59 Marreese Speights PHIL PF 0.613
60 Kurt Thomas MILW PF 0.608
MARGINAL ROLE PLAYER POWER FORWARDS / SHOULD NEVER START
61 J.J. Hickson CLEV PF 0.599
62 Charlie Villanueva DETR PF 0.582
63 Chris Hunter GOLS PF 0.576
64 Yi Jianlian NJRS PF 0.575
65 Nathan Jawai MINN PF 0.575
66 Hakim Warrick MILW PF 0.571
67 Darius Songaila NORL PF 0.561
68 Jon Brockman SACR PF 0.554
POOR POWER FORWARDS
69 Jason Maxiell DETR PF 0.532
70 Kenny Thomas SACR PF 0.523
71 Juwan Howard PORT PF 0.520
72 Hakim Warrick CHIC PF 0.514
73 Glen Davis BOST PF 0.508
74 Solomon Jones INDI PF 0.493
75 James Johnson CHIC PF 0.487
76 Eduardo Najera DALL PF 0.482
VERY POOR POWER FORWARDS
77 Jason Smith PHIL PF 0.466
78 Jared Jeffries HOUS PF 0.462
79 Joe Smith ATLA PF 0.453
80 Darrell Arthur MEMP PF 0.443
81 Jeff Pendergraph PORT PF 0.432
EXTREMELY POOR POWER FORWARDS
82 Josh Powell LALK PF 0.386
83 Malik Allen DENV PF 0.282
NBA POWER FORWARDS' REAL PLAYER PRODUCTION
2009-10 REGULAR SEASON
--Shows how much of real basketball value power forwards really produced
--Includes all tracked actions and includes the value of untracked or hidden defending
--All power forwards who played at least 300 minutes are included
MORE THAN 4,000
None
3,500 to 3,999
None
3,000 to 3,499
1 Dirk Nowitzki DALL PF 3142.54
2 Tim Duncan SANA PF 3058.38
2,500 to 2,999
3 Zach Randolph MEMP PF 2700.30
4 Carlos Boozer UTAH PF 2657.36
5 Pau Gasol LALK PF 2558.36
6 Lamar Odom LALK PF 2538.29
2,000 to 2,499
7 Chris Bosh TORO PF 2456.19
8 LaMarcus Aldridge PORT PF 2387.69
9 Amare Stoudemire PHNX PF 2349.14
10 David West NORL PF 2302.04
11 Troy Murphy INDI PF 2189.98
12 Luis Scola HOUS PF 2180.54
13 Boris Diaw CHAR PF 2169.10
14 Kevin Garnett BOST PF 2127.62
15 Jeff Green OKLA PF 2006.23
1,500 to 1,999
16 Paul Millsap UTAH PF 1970.95
17 Marvin Williams ATLA PF 1767.92
18 Rashard Lewis ORLA PF 1708.74
19 Udonis Haslem MIAM PF 1684.43
20 Elton Brand PHIL PF 1667.73
21 Michael Beasley MIAM PF 1662.03
22 Taj Gibson CHIC PF 1633.34
23 Jason Thompson SACR PF 1617.24
24 Kevin Love MINN PF 1600.31
1,000 to 1,499
25 Al Harrington NWYR PF 1438.54
26 Chris Andersen DENV PF 1436.69
27 Kenyon Martin DENV PF 1407.70
28 Antonio McDyess SANA PF 1356.57
29 Chuck Hayes HOUS PF 1356.36
30 Rasheed Wallace BOST PF 1347.58
31 Nick Collison OKLA PF 1264.03
32 DeJuan Blair SANA PF 1171.20
33 Carl Landry HOUS PF 1155.21
34 Serge Ibaka OKLA PF 1131.82
35 Charlie Villanueva DETR PF 1075.76
36 Craig Smith LACL PF 1065.25
37 Antawn Jamison WASH PF 1060.86
38 J.J. Hickson CLEV PF 1012.93
39 Anthony Tolliver GOLS PF 1009.15
500 to 999
40 Yi Jianlian NJRS PF 952.02
41 Jared Jeffries NWYR PF 916.44
42 Matt Bonner SANA PF 886.30
43 Louis Amundson PHNX PF 853.80
44 Juwan Howard PORT PF 847.85
45 Jason Maxiell DETR PF 824.48
46 Darius Songaila NORL PF 790.45
47 Ryan Anderson ORLA PF 765.18
48 Marcin Gortat ORLA PF 759.84
49 Carl Landry SACR PF 725.82
50 Drew Gooden DALL PF 694.41
51 Antawn Jamison CLEV PF 664.18
52 Kurt Thomas MILW PF 637.38
53 Marreese Speights PHIL PF 623.11
54 Anthony Randolph GOLS PF 614.13
55 Tyrus Thomas CHIC PF 613.10
56 Hakim Warrick MILW PF 585.12
57 Kris Humphries NJRS PF 585.09
LESS THAN 500
58 Drew Gooden LACL PF 491.60
59 Glen Davis BOST PF 473.83
60 Tyrus Thomas CHAR PF 471.41
61 Chris Hunter GOLS PF 450.81
62 Shelden Williams BOST PF 446.73
63 Brandon Bass ORLA PF 419.83
64 Tyler Hansbrough INDI PF 369.87
65 James Johnson CHIC PF 368.56
66 Jon Brockman SACR PF 362.63
67 Josh McRoberts INDI PF 345.22
68 Solomon Jones INDI PF 332.97
69 Jason Smith PHIL PF 306.76
70 Hakim Warrick CHIC PF 273.84
71 Joe Smith ATLA PF 268.34
72 Jordan Hill HOUS PF 245.77
73 Reggie Evans TORO PF 237.31
74 Nathan Jawai MINN PF 236.81
75 Sean May SACR PF 235.04
76 Eduardo Najera DALL PF 231.63
77 Josh Powell LALK PF 224.10
78 Darrell Arthur MEMP PF 202.63
79 Kris Humphries DALL PF 202.17
80 Jeff Pendergraph PORT PF 174.92
81 Kenny Thomas SACR PF 163.57
82 Jared Jeffries HOUS PF 153.53
83 Malik Allen DENV PF 128.47
OFFENSIVE AND DEFENSIVE SUB RATINGS
The offensive and the defensive sub ratings for these power forwards follow in the next Report.
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